My Decision to change my Gallardo TT System
#91
11-02-2008 | 06:47 PM
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not sure, what flavors do they make now a days. but i figure its no different a flavor than being a yankee fan vs a dodger fan. why do you constantly care so much you obviously cant afford either flavors let alone the bottle they come in.
ripper, i agreed with you before in previous posts, competition is good as thats what makes things better. either way as long as your happy and a fellow tt guy. just like prototech, i never knocked there bolt on kit, just praised them with a great idea for and affordable and easy kit if it were to work out. btw did it? anyhow, like i said the game doesnt stop here, there will be others like i said from the beginning, infact i know or at least heard that there are some others in the work. **** they may have a better system on the way. we'll see. either way there are more cars coming out and this wont be the last car that i'll mod so i dont really care what anyone thinks as this isnt my only car. i plan on building a 8 second Civic with NASA built turbos with turbines the size of airplane propellers.
ripper, i agreed with you before in previous posts, competition is good as thats what makes things better. either way as long as your happy and a fellow tt guy. just like prototech, i never knocked there bolt on kit, just praised them with a great idea for and affordable and easy kit if it were to work out. btw did it? anyhow, like i said the game doesnt stop here, there will be others like i said from the beginning, infact i know or at least heard that there are some others in the work. **** they may have a better system on the way. we'll see. either way there are more cars coming out and this wont be the last car that i'll mod so i dont really care what anyone thinks as this isnt my only car. i plan on building a 8 second Civic with NASA built turbos with turbines the size of airplane propellers.
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11-03-2008 | 04:09 PM
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Now that you ask, I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Basically the build quality on my cars was similar to Ripper's. Also I could have been killed filling gas on my SRT because Jason didn't seal off a vent tube and gas would run onto the ground below (just missing the drivers side header) when adding fuel. Also, I hope Ripper's motor has the parts he paid for when it gets opened up because mine didn't. The way I see it is if someone can't recognize what had gone on here by looking at the pictures, they deserve to have their cars hacked up. I feel no empathy for them getting screwed.
#93
11-03-2008 | 04:30 PM
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Sorry, no agenda here. Just the facts, jack! Too bad I can't say the same about a classless asshat like you.....
So tell us, how much did Heffner pay you to make that post after his "Bat Phone" informed him that a member on the FGT forum was thinking of buying a TT system for their FGT from Hennessey and NOT Heffner?
So tell us, how much did Heffner pay you to make that post after his "Bat Phone" informed him that a member on the FGT forum was thinking of buying a TT system for their FGT from Hennessey and NOT Heffner?
appears to be a quality product.
I've certainly heard plenty but unless I experience it for myself or have firsthand knowledge
I say nothing.
Your posts regarding classless speak for themself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#96
11-03-2008 | 05:39 PM
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Now that you ask, I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Basically the build quality on my cars was similar to Ripper's. Also I could have been killed filling gas on my SRT because Jason didn't seal off a vent tube and gas would run onto the ground below (just missing the drivers side header) when adding fuel. Also, I hope Ripper's motor has the parts he paid for when it gets opened up because mine didn't. The way I see it is if someone can't recognize what had gone on here by looking at the pictures, they deserve to have their cars hacked up. I feel no empathy for them getting screwed.
You wouldn't want everyone to just think you were a "regular" customer, would you?
#97
11-03-2008 | 05:44 PM
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Riiiiight. Tell you what, I'll agree to believe that bunch of bs after your buddy Heffner comes forward and tells everyone here how he lied to his customers insurance company about who was driving that SRT he smashed through a fence. Deal?
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11-03-2008 | 06:48 PM
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I have no financial interest in UR and don't know of anyone who does. I opted to forego an intended financial support of UR expressly so I would have the freedom to tell the truth about Heffner. I made that clear months ago on Viper Alley. This corporate666 AE is another attempt by Heffner to silence his critics and "kill the messenger." I don't know which I regard less about Jason, the poor quality of his builds or the way he tosses everyone under the bus who dares to tell the truth about his products. The pictures Ripper posted speak the truth more than any words ever could.
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11-03-2008 | 07:04 PM
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all i can say is competition brings good things.
lets just move on and see what the future brings us. there are a few top tuner companys coming out with big things for the Gallardo, this is trully just the beginning of many things to come.
lets just move on and see what the future brings us. there are a few top tuner companys coming out with big things for the Gallardo, this is trully just the beginning of many things to come.
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#101
11-03-2008 | 07:54 PM
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I have no financial interest in UR and don't know of anyone who does. I opted to forego an intended financial support of UR expressly so I would have the freedom to tell the truth about Heffner. I made that clear months ago on Viper Alley. This corporate666 AE is another attempt by Heffner to silence his critics and "kill the messenger." I don't know which I regard less about Jason, the poor quality of his builds or the way he tosses everyone under the bus who dares to tell the truth about his products. The pictures Ripper posted speak the truth more than any words ever could.
I would also say a family member who wads up your car due to ineptitude is a lot more dangerous than a mistake on a vent line that can be easily corrected.
I would also say offering to pay legal costs of anyone who can be encouraged to come out and bash Heffner and risk a lawsuit isn't very unbiased either.
Telling one's story is one thing. Going on a mission to discredit a guy.... for dubious reasons.... is quite another.
If Heffners stuff is so bad, the truth will come out on it's own, without a few guys continuing their multi-year crusade to try to get even with Heffner for perceived slights. When someone raves for a period of years about how AWESOME Heffner is and claims to get 4 or 5 cars done by him and constantly praises how awesome they are... then suddenly turns into his biggest detractor, it's not exactly an unbiased review of the situation, to anyone who is watching from the sidelines.
'nuff said.
Anyone considering a Heffner package owes it to themselves to talk to Heffner and anyone else they are considering buying a TT package from. These internet vendettas are unproductive, especially when they are veiled under the guise of "just making sure everyone knows the truth" (wink, wink)
#102
11-03-2008 | 08:29 PM
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So you were financially invested in UR, or you planned to be.... and that makes you unbiased. OK, whatever.
I would also say a family member who wads up your car due to ineptitude is a lot more dangerous than a mistake on a vent line that can be easily corrected.
I would also say offering to pay legal costs of anyone who can be encouraged to come out and bash Heffner and risk a lawsuit isn't very unbiased either.
Telling one's story is one thing. Going on a mission to discredit a guy.... for dubious reasons.... is quite another.
If Heffners stuff is so bad, the truth will come out on it's own, without a few guys continuing their multi-year crusade to try to get even with Heffner for perceived slights. When someone raves for a period of years about how AWESOME Heffner is and claims to get 4 or 5 cars done by him and constantly praises how awesome they are... then suddenly turns into his biggest detractor, it's not exactly an unbiased review of the situation, to anyone who is watching from the sidelines.
'nuff said.
Anyone considering a Heffner package owes it to themselves to talk to Heffner and anyone else they are considering buying a TT package from. These internet vendettas are unproductive, especially when they are veiled under the guise of "just making sure everyone knows the truth" (wink, wink)
I would also say a family member who wads up your car due to ineptitude is a lot more dangerous than a mistake on a vent line that can be easily corrected.
I would also say offering to pay legal costs of anyone who can be encouraged to come out and bash Heffner and risk a lawsuit isn't very unbiased either.
Telling one's story is one thing. Going on a mission to discredit a guy.... for dubious reasons.... is quite another.
If Heffners stuff is so bad, the truth will come out on it's own, without a few guys continuing their multi-year crusade to try to get even with Heffner for perceived slights. When someone raves for a period of years about how AWESOME Heffner is and claims to get 4 or 5 cars done by him and constantly praises how awesome they are... then suddenly turns into his biggest detractor, it's not exactly an unbiased review of the situation, to anyone who is watching from the sidelines.
'nuff said.
Anyone considering a Heffner package owes it to themselves to talk to Heffner and anyone else they are considering buying a TT package from. These internet vendettas are unproductive, especially when they are veiled under the guise of "just making sure everyone knows the truth" (wink, wink)
You threaten lawsuits despite having no basis for any, cajole and beg your customer's to lie for you to cover your actions but the truth will always surface. You asked Ripper as a friend to lie about your Gallardos being repaired in Doug Levin's shop which he did and recently apologized for.
Ripper laid out the truth in the pictures for everyone to see and you launched a campaign to smear him that failed miserably because the pictures don't lie. You have a long history of building mediocre performance packages and attacking competitors and customer's who challenge your business practices. The jig is up and you can't cover your lies any longer.
Review page one of this thread and look again at that garbage you charged 60k for. Go back to high school get educated and get a real job. Exposing you isn't a vendetta, it's a service to car enthusiasts everywhere.
#103
11-04-2008 | 08:59 AM
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So you were financially invested in UR, or you planned to be.... and that makes you unbiased. OK, whatever.
I would also say a family member who wads up your car due to ineptitude is a lot more dangerous than a mistake on a vent line that can be easily corrected.
I would also say offering to pay legal costs of anyone who can be encouraged to come out and bash Heffner and risk a lawsuit isn't very unbiased either.
Telling one's story is one thing. Going on a mission to discredit a guy.... for dubious reasons.... is quite another.
If Heffners stuff is so bad, the truth will come out on it's own, without a few guys continuing their multi-year crusade to try to get even with Heffner for perceived slights. When someone raves for a period of years about how AWESOME Heffner is and claims to get 4 or 5 cars done by him and constantly praises how awesome they are... then suddenly turns into his biggest detractor, it's not exactly an unbiased review of the situation, to anyone who is watching from the sidelines.
'nuff said.
Anyone considering a Heffner package owes it to themselves to talk to Heffner and anyone else they are considering buying a TT package from. These internet vendettas are unproductive, especially when they are veiled under the guise of "just making sure everyone knows the truth" (wink, wink)
I would also say a family member who wads up your car due to ineptitude is a lot more dangerous than a mistake on a vent line that can be easily corrected.
I would also say offering to pay legal costs of anyone who can be encouraged to come out and bash Heffner and risk a lawsuit isn't very unbiased either.
Telling one's story is one thing. Going on a mission to discredit a guy.... for dubious reasons.... is quite another.
If Heffners stuff is so bad, the truth will come out on it's own, without a few guys continuing their multi-year crusade to try to get even with Heffner for perceived slights. When someone raves for a period of years about how AWESOME Heffner is and claims to get 4 or 5 cars done by him and constantly praises how awesome they are... then suddenly turns into his biggest detractor, it's not exactly an unbiased review of the situation, to anyone who is watching from the sidelines.
'nuff said.
Anyone considering a Heffner package owes it to themselves to talk to Heffner and anyone else they are considering buying a TT package from. These internet vendettas are unproductive, especially when they are veiled under the guise of "just making sure everyone knows the truth" (wink, wink)
#104
11-04-2008 | 09:04 AM
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Once again Jason Heffner you betray your identity with too much information. You pretty much confirmed with this diatribe of smear tactics, my point about how you react to those who dare to criticize your work. You did it to me, you did it to Torquemonster and you now have included Ripper.
You threaten lawsuits despite having no basis for any, cajole and beg your customer's to lie for you to cover your actions but the truth will always surface. You asked Ripper as a friend to lie about your Gallardos being repaired in Doug Levin's shop which he did and recently apologized for.
Ripper laid out the truth in the pictures for everyone to see and you launched a campaign to smear him that failed miserably because the pictures don't lie. You have a long history of building mediocre performance packages and attacking competitors and customer's who challenge your business practices. The jig is up and you can't cover your lies any longer.
Review page one of this thread and look again at that garbage you charged 60k for. Go back to high school get educated and get a real job. Exposing you isn't a vendetta, it's a service to car enthusiasts everywhere.
You threaten lawsuits despite having no basis for any, cajole and beg your customer's to lie for you to cover your actions but the truth will always surface. You asked Ripper as a friend to lie about your Gallardos being repaired in Doug Levin's shop which he did and recently apologized for.
Ripper laid out the truth in the pictures for everyone to see and you launched a campaign to smear him that failed miserably because the pictures don't lie. You have a long history of building mediocre performance packages and attacking competitors and customer's who challenge your business practices. The jig is up and you can't cover your lies any longer.
Review page one of this thread and look again at that garbage you charged 60k for. Go back to high school get educated and get a real job. Exposing you isn't a vendetta, it's a service to car enthusiasts everywhere.
This says alot to me "the customer" who has known him for only 3 months.
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11-04-2008 | 09:54 AM
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Thats funny, the Jason i know just bought a plane ticket to fly down and do my oil change for free. Is he sending one of his guys? no.. He is coming himself, because he wants to go over the entire car in my garage...
This says alot to me "the customer" who has known him for only 3 months.
This says alot to me "the customer" who has known him for only 3 months.
Do not get sidetracked about what we are saying here. It is plain to see that Jason's design and build quality is mediocre (refer again to the pictures) and that he will absolutely do everything in his power to discredit any customer who dares to point it out.
People like you who accept mediocracy are enablers that insure those who follow you will be victimized as well and waste their hard earned dollars.