Supercharger v TT
#1
Supercharger v TT
I've been reading articles speculating that the Gallardo replacement may sport a supercharger. (e.g., http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junki...g-2449514.html)
From the after-market perspective, what are the relative merits of a bolt-on supercharger v a bolt-on twin turbo or vice versa? Is the supercharger easier on the stock components?
I don't see anyone pushing superchargers for Gallardos but it seems like a bolt-on supercharger would be a pretty quick install and a price point around $20,000-$25,000 might be the sweet spot for the market segment that isn't ready to go all-in with a full build TT.
(***Edit: As I've been researching this throughout the day, a newer article seems to say no SC http://www.caradvice.com.au/196819/l...-all-new-bull/)
From the after-market perspective, what are the relative merits of a bolt-on supercharger v a bolt-on twin turbo or vice versa? Is the supercharger easier on the stock components?
I don't see anyone pushing superchargers for Gallardos but it seems like a bolt-on supercharger would be a pretty quick install and a price point around $20,000-$25,000 might be the sweet spot for the market segment that isn't ready to go all-in with a full build TT.
(***Edit: As I've been researching this throughout the day, a newer article seems to say no SC http://www.caradvice.com.au/196819/l...-all-new-bull/)
Last edited by jhbchess; 10-30-2012 at 05:22 PM.
#3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=-nRzqW1G3kc
#4
You bring up a good point. The thing about superchargers is that they rob the engine of a little power to make power. Turbochargers, on the other hand, make more power as power increases. Personally, I prefer the power potential of a good turbo setup. Even the domestic market, which has traditionally leaned towards supercharging is increasingly choosing turbochargers as the preferred method of forced induction.
Whatever the factory decides, I'm sure it will be great and the aftermarket will find a way to improve on it.
I'm more bummed about the lack of manual transmission.
Whatever the factory decides, I'm sure it will be great and the aftermarket will find a way to improve on it.
I'm more bummed about the lack of manual transmission.
#5
Some people just love instant low end grunt... And some people prefer the top end pull...
If you're looking for simplicity, reasonable power levels and a strong/instant low end pull, a supercharger is a great choice... The parasitic drag a s/c creates on the engine is negligible on a street car IMHO... But when it comes to big power full out builds I would always choose turbos.
If you're looking for simplicity, reasonable power levels and a strong/instant low end pull, a supercharger is a great choice... The parasitic drag a s/c creates on the engine is negligible on a street car IMHO... But when it comes to big power full out builds I would always choose turbos.
#6
I've been reading articles speculating that the Gallardo replacement may sport a supercharger. (e.g., http://beforeitsnews.com/motor-junki...g-2449514.html)
From the after-market perspective, what are the relative merits of a bolt-on supercharger v a bolt-on twin turbo or vice versa? Is the supercharger easier on the stock components?
I don't see anyone pushing superchargers for Gallardos but it seems like a bolt-on supercharger would be a pretty quick install and a price point around $20,000-$25,000 might be the sweet spot for the market segment that isn't ready to go all-in with a full build TT.
(***Edit: As I've been researching this throughout the day, a newer article seems to say no SC http://www.caradvice.com.au/196819/l...-all-new-bull/)
From the after-market perspective, what are the relative merits of a bolt-on supercharger v a bolt-on twin turbo or vice versa? Is the supercharger easier on the stock components?
I don't see anyone pushing superchargers for Gallardos but it seems like a bolt-on supercharger would be a pretty quick install and a price point around $20,000-$25,000 might be the sweet spot for the market segment that isn't ready to go all-in with a full build TT.
(***Edit: As I've been researching this throughout the day, a newer article seems to say no SC http://www.caradvice.com.au/196819/l...-all-new-bull/)
Just call Kevin at UGR and have him do what he did to my LP570, a
Stage 1.5 bolt on. No negative change in driveability, only the big power bump! Worth every dime spent!!
#7
screw it, someone just send a truck and take my car in for a stage 2 already. every time i turn a corner in my neighborhood, houstont rolls up and asks me if it's done yet. i capitulate! but i demand a 4-week build max.
and candy corns.
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#9
stage 3 on a performante. i fear that.
#10
Keep in mind Peter really does not think about longevity as he never keeps a car more than a few months.
Try not to be persuaded into a 1300-1500 whp UGR kit because we all know there is always someone faster.
IMO 750-900 whp will be more fun for a street car if you plan to keep it for a few years.
Good luck on the path you choose.
Try not to be persuaded into a 1300-1500 whp UGR kit because we all know there is always someone faster.
IMO 750-900 whp will be more fun for a street car if you plan to keep it for a few years.
Good luck on the path you choose.
#11
do the 1250 hp (stage 3) kit. 2 year warranty and plenty fast enough and you can always have them tune it at 800, 1000, 1250hp levels with a flick of a switch.
with the stage 3 you get a built motor so you don't have to worry about it coming apart compared to doing a non built motor build. You could also do the stage 2 with the built motor and get up to 1100hp.
with the stage 3 you get a built motor so you don't have to worry about it coming apart compared to doing a non built motor build. You could also do the stage 2 with the built motor and get up to 1100hp.
Last edited by Mullet; 11-01-2012 at 07:39 AM.
#12
sc vs tt
Does a supercharger on this motor develop a more linear powerband? I loved how the turbo on my TTRS did not have the dreaded turbo lag. It felt almost like a naturally aspirated car.
#13
Keep in mind Peter really does not think about longevity as he never keeps a car more than a few months.
Try not to be persuaded into a 1300-1500 whp UGR kit because we all know there is always someone faster.
IMO 750-900 whp will be more fun for a street car if you plan to keep it for a few years.
Good luck on the path you choose.
Try not to be persuaded into a 1300-1500 whp UGR kit because we all know there is always someone faster.
IMO 750-900 whp will be more fun for a street car if you plan to keep it for a few years.
Good luck on the path you choose.
True, my dear Walnut, but I think that a reliable 900 would require an engine build.
For me personally, it would depend on my financials. If I was bringing down 400K per year, w/ a net worth of at least 1.5 million, then why not go all out on a stage 3? Unfortunally, I am not in that situation.
You are right, there will always be somthing faster, but right now I believe the UR Lambos (despite the loss at the TI) are still king of the hill. It just requires a ton of money to get in the game.
Last edited by Dr_jitsu; 11-02-2012 at 05:47 PM.
#14
it's looking like we're going to permanently remove the folding soft-top and mechanicals, install an 8-point carbon fiber cage so it is always open top, give it HRE Cf wheels, custom clutch, and the new stage 4 race build. i am anticipating 2300hp on U-238 and 2550 hp on weapons grade Pu-239.
steven tyler is reportedly incredibly jealous.
yes, yes i am drinking right now.
steven tyler is reportedly incredibly jealous.
yes, yes i am drinking right now.
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