GTR wins another Car and Driver review
#21
I'm not a fanboy, but why is this test all of a sudden valid when everyone was *****ing how all the tests were fixed before. Now that the GT-R has a slow time, it's gosphel?
#22
For the people that track a lot, the claimed power to weight ratio made the earlier numbers unrealistic. Nobody said the cars performance for the money wasn't impressive, they just wanted for production cars to show up and see tests that were'nt using Nissans test mules. That way it would show if Nissan was using Rinngers or understating it's power. If you go back and read a lot of the threads you'll see it was the Gtr fans that got upset when people didn't believe the numbers and started the name calling. Now that the shoe's on the other foot and test results have numbers that seem more realistic the fans just kind of dissapeared.
#24
For the people that track a lot, the claimed power to weight ratio made the earlier numbers unrealistic. Nobody said the cars performance for the money wasn't impressive, they just wanted for production cars to show up and see tests that were'nt using Nissans test mules. That way it would show if Nissan was using Rinngers or understating it's power. If you go back and read a lot of the threads you'll see it was the Gtr fans that got upset when people didn't believe the numbers and started the name calling. Now that the shoe's on the other foot and test results have numbers that seem more realistic the fans just kind of dissapeared.
#25
Those previous tests were BS. Those test mules had way more HP than clamied and ran on R compound tires. We finally get to see how fast the GTR really is. I can't wait to catch one ont he street. Impressive car for the price nonetheless.
#27
Since no US spec cars were built other than test vehicles, and the people involved in the testing said they recieved the cars direct from Nissans testing department, what makes it a conspiracy? Now that the cars are here, people will soon know how close the test vehicles were to the actual production specs.
#28
Since no US spec cars were built other than test vehicles, and the people involved in the testing said they recieved the cars direct from Nissans testing department, what makes it a conspiracy? Now that the cars are here, people will soon know how close the test vehicles were to the actual production specs.
and what do you mean no US spec cars were built other than test vehicles? they've been built months ago, where do you get these stupid ideas from? USDM spec cars have been delivered for months now in the grey market. and US allocations are at the dealerships already.
before you make assumptions again, ASK PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABOUT IT
Last edited by ihatepotholes; 06-27-2008 at 09:05 AM.
#29
Not like it matters. An official stock ZR1 kicked it's *** already. And they say there is more in it.
"By: Tadge J. Juechter
Corvette Chief Engineer
I know many people have been very interested in how fast the ZR1 would be at the Ring…
Most car enthusiasts are quite familiar with the Nürburgring. Built in the 1920’s near Cologne, Germany, “the Ring” is considered to be the toughest and most challenging race track in the world.
Over the last two weeks, we have been doing our final tuning and testing there before we start ZR1 production cars. This morning (Friday June 27), General Motors development engineer Jim Mero drove the Corvette ZR1 around the Nürburgring in a time of 7:26.4.
Jim commented after the lap that conditions were good except for a strong headwind down the main straight and that the lap was solid, but he felt there were a few places he could have gone faster.
The car was bone stock with the exception of the communications and safety equipment. The tires were production Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s. These tires have been developed specifically for the ZR1 and will have impressive wet traction and wear (tread wear rating = 220), in addition to excellent dry road holding. Chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs. Likewise, the engine calibrations were absolutely stock, emissions compliant and the car ran on pump (not racing) fuel. The vehicle was exactly like the cars that will be built in Bowling Green, Kentucky and sold around the world later this summer.
Despite posting one of the fastest times ever run by a production car, Nürburgring lap times were not an over-riding priority in the development of the ZR1. The truth is, if the only priority was speed at the ring, the car would not be very pleasant to drive on American roads. The ZR1 is an incredibly capable track machine, but unlike most ultra-high performance cars, it is very easy to live with on a daily basis.
The timed lap was run with a rolling start, a departure from our previous practice of standing starts. This is more aligned with current industry practice. The lap was electronically timed and confirmed with two hand-held stopwatches. An in-car video will be posted when the engineering team returns from Germany. Look for it the week of July 7!"
http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194
"By: Tadge J. Juechter
Corvette Chief Engineer
I know many people have been very interested in how fast the ZR1 would be at the Ring…
Most car enthusiasts are quite familiar with the Nürburgring. Built in the 1920’s near Cologne, Germany, “the Ring” is considered to be the toughest and most challenging race track in the world.
Over the last two weeks, we have been doing our final tuning and testing there before we start ZR1 production cars. This morning (Friday June 27), General Motors development engineer Jim Mero drove the Corvette ZR1 around the Nürburgring in a time of 7:26.4.
Jim commented after the lap that conditions were good except for a strong headwind down the main straight and that the lap was solid, but he felt there were a few places he could have gone faster.
The car was bone stock with the exception of the communications and safety equipment. The tires were production Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s. These tires have been developed specifically for the ZR1 and will have impressive wet traction and wear (tread wear rating = 220), in addition to excellent dry road holding. Chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs. Likewise, the engine calibrations were absolutely stock, emissions compliant and the car ran on pump (not racing) fuel. The vehicle was exactly like the cars that will be built in Bowling Green, Kentucky and sold around the world later this summer.
Despite posting one of the fastest times ever run by a production car, Nürburgring lap times were not an over-riding priority in the development of the ZR1. The truth is, if the only priority was speed at the ring, the car would not be very pleasant to drive on American roads. The ZR1 is an incredibly capable track machine, but unlike most ultra-high performance cars, it is very easy to live with on a daily basis.
The timed lap was run with a rolling start, a departure from our previous practice of standing starts. This is more aligned with current industry practice. The lap was electronically timed and confirmed with two hand-held stopwatches. An in-car video will be posted when the engineering team returns from Germany. Look for it the week of July 7!"
http://blog.gmnext.com/?p=194
#30
[quote=SSNISTR;1923567]Not like it matters. An official stock ZR1 kicked it's *** already. And they say there is more in it.
Yeah, completely stock! Just like the CTS-V they tested and claimed was stock. Here is a pic of the stock CTS-V interior!
Total double standard from all the GT-R haters.
Yeah, completely stock! Just like the CTS-V they tested and claimed was stock. Here is a pic of the stock CTS-V interior!
Total double standard from all the GT-R haters.