GT-R drivetrain warranty claim denied because owner turned traction control off!!
#32
#38
Not for nothing, people are going out and spending over 70k on a nissan that does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. But if you want to do it that fast, your taking the risk of breaking something and not having a warranty. Cmon this is nuts. I understand mods voiding it, but just taking vdc off and having fun? Why even make a launch mode. Theres no point. If i buy a new expensive performance car, i want to be able to take it out and beat the crap out of it and not worry. Isnt that the point of buying a new performance car? Im really pissed nissan is pulling this crap. 3 black boxes? Its true if you go over a certian speed you void your warranty also right? My advice, if you own or plan on owning a gtr, go and get a aftermarket warranty, they seem to stand by them. And to the fellows over at nissan, U SUCK
#39
why is that a bad thing?
and to answer your question - no. there is no warranty voiding speed, nor is there is a warranty voiding condition on the car.
the only issues you would run into is when you disengage the vdc, while not stuck in an emergency situation where you are attempting to 'rock' the vehicle, and something breaks as a direct result of that specific action.
if you do it, and it doesn't look like you will, so i'm not sure why you even care, but launch it all day. hell, dump your clutch at 5k rpms all day, and go to the dealer and see what they say.... if you go to the dealer, and they say it's ok - then nothing broke as a direct result, and there is no voiding of a warranty.
not sure where you get your info, so i thought i could help clarify.
#40
its an automatic, made to be launched. Are u forgetting that? ive never heard of another car company telling you that turning vdc off voids warrantys. Another think you need to understand, I love this car. I just hate this crap nissans pulling.
#41
if you're going from what the company is telling us...
they've never said it was an automatic.
and they've never said that vdc 'off' voids warranties.
what they said was, if anything is broken as a result of driving while vdc is 'off', is not covered under warranty.
this is a far cry from car manufacturers saying that if you take your car to race track, that your warranty is voided immediately.
there are plenty of owners who run high speeds, launched, and ran laps with vdc 'off' that all still have warranties.
if you're raising the issue about the transmission type, it has two clutches, call it what you will - it has clutches. if your manual transmission has a clutch, dump your clutch at 5k rpms 20 times, and if it holds up, you still have a warranty, right? if you dump your clutch 20 times, and something breaks as a direct result of that, warranty voided. please explain the difference...
they've never said it was an automatic.
and they've never said that vdc 'off' voids warranties.
what they said was, if anything is broken as a result of driving while vdc is 'off', is not covered under warranty.
this is a far cry from car manufacturers saying that if you take your car to race track, that your warranty is voided immediately.
there are plenty of owners who run high speeds, launched, and ran laps with vdc 'off' that all still have warranties.
if you're raising the issue about the transmission type, it has two clutches, call it what you will - it has clutches. if your manual transmission has a clutch, dump your clutch at 5k rpms 20 times, and if it holds up, you still have a warranty, right? if you dump your clutch 20 times, and something breaks as a direct result of that, warranty voided. please explain the difference...
#42
"there are plenty of owners who run high speeds, launched, and ran laps with vdc 'off' that all still have warranties."
They still have their warranties because nothing broke while VDC was off. The point being is that if VDC is off, and something breaks, you have no warranty.
My guess is that the car would be better suited with a more durable, traditional 3 pedal manual transmission. Nissan would do itself and its customers a great favor by offering future models with that option. Then they have a real winner, at a lower cost.
To me, this is just another example of these garbage chicktronic transmissions, SMG, DCT, DSG, etc., etc. If BMW M had introduced the new m3 with only chicktronic I wouldnt have bought it. And they've certainly had their own problems with it.
They still have their warranties because nothing broke while VDC was off. The point being is that if VDC is off, and something breaks, you have no warranty.
My guess is that the car would be better suited with a more durable, traditional 3 pedal manual transmission. Nissan would do itself and its customers a great favor by offering future models with that option. Then they have a real winner, at a lower cost.
To me, this is just another example of these garbage chicktronic transmissions, SMG, DCT, DSG, etc., etc. If BMW M had introduced the new m3 with only chicktronic I wouldnt have bought it. And they've certainly had their own problems with it.
#44
Perhaps what you say is true. Nissan still should have taken this into consideration and installed a chip that will prevent idiots from launching the car, something that it is meant to do, until the car is at operating temp. That little bit of tech would have saved alot of heartache. I mean this America, people love to mod, race, rag, etc .. If Nissan cannot fit the bill they should stick to Maximas, Sentras etc .. I ran the everliving crap outta my Z when new and not a single issue. Technology in the wrong hands can lead to disaster. Case in point; the GTR. Great car if you treat it like a *****y woman.
#45
IMO this trans issue should be under one time good will warranty and have VDC button removed. The rest should be recalled for removal of VDC button! Then again that will admit fault. Just can't win. IMO that is just a weak trans for 480hp. More trans issue will show up once those GTRs put on more miles. Just like the 00-02 5 speed auto trans in Honda and Acura. Every car with that 5 speed auto trans need at least 2 to get to 100K miles. Luckily Honda picked up all claims and extended the warranty.