How are GTR’s already in the 125 mph trap speeds with the massive weight????
#61
measured at the rear wheels on dynojet. we disconected the prop shaft to the front diff.
#62
heinricy has not driven it yet.
the V is a sedan, so no real comparo there. the zr1 is faster and performs better in almost every category stock vs stock, modded vs modded. however the average driver like me is going to be faster in the GTR. the zr1 requires a higher skill level for it to operate at the top of its performance game.
the ZR1 with mods is really fast from 80-180. we have seen 0-186 mph in 27 seconds. that is over 9 seconds quicker than a stock ZR1.
the GTR is going to have to get closer to 700 rw hp to be able to muscle with some of the big boys over 100 mph.
#63
Kickhard,
I understand what you are saying and agree with most comments ,but why are we seeing relatively low 60-130 numbers from the GTR. Stock GTR's trapping 120 are in mid 10sec ,60-130.
I timed my friends tuned BMW 335i (10 sec , 60-130). His cobb tuned GTR only pulls 2-2.5 cars on the BMW from 60-130. I saw somewhere here that even a CObb tuned GTR does only mid 9 sec 60-130. A cobb tuned GTR is in the high 400 whp range correct? Most cars above 450 whp are faster than that.
But the same cobb cars trap close to 125mph. looking at some of the graphs i posted above ...it falls flat at 100 and then recovers.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....st=20&start=20
Scroll down in this link for the graphs.
I understand what you are saying and agree with most comments ,but why are we seeing relatively low 60-130 numbers from the GTR. Stock GTR's trapping 120 are in mid 10sec ,60-130.
I timed my friends tuned BMW 335i (10 sec , 60-130). His cobb tuned GTR only pulls 2-2.5 cars on the BMW from 60-130. I saw somewhere here that even a CObb tuned GTR does only mid 9 sec 60-130. A cobb tuned GTR is in the high 400 whp range correct? Most cars above 450 whp are faster than that.
But the same cobb cars trap close to 125mph. looking at some of the graphs i posted above ...it falls flat at 100 and then recovers.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....st=20&start=20
Scroll down in this link for the graphs.
1. Is the person that is driving the GTR in R mode all the way?
2. Is the car in the right gear for the speed or when doing the 60-130 pull is the car hunting or searching for the right gear?
I havent timed a pull in my car to really see what it does. Maybe when the weather gets better here i will do it. The way I would do it would be all 3 in R mode and then switch it over to manual mode so that I could shift it. Probably 3rd gear starting out at 60mph would be the right gear I dont know. I will get my G-tech out and do some runs to see whats up. I can do it stock and with a Cobb tune stage 1 to see the differences
The AWD isnt really a factor and causing drag because at that speed going straight the bias is pretty much all to the rear.
#64
Some of the cobb cars are still only trapping 118-121 mph. Some trap that stock Seems there is a wide range of power between one car and the next. John, the same guy that ran 10's had his car trapping 114 mph stock, then 118 on Cobb only and then went up from there.
540 whp is enough wheel hp for a 125 mph trap in great conditions. Plus no one says if they've done any weight reduction. Just changing the seats and tires on a GT-R will get you 130-150 lbs
540 whp is enough wheel hp for a 125 mph trap in great conditions. Plus no one says if they've done any weight reduction. Just changing the seats and tires on a GT-R will get you 130-150 lbs
No one that I know of has done any worthy weight reduction because honestly there really isnt much to reduce. Other than what you said about seats and tires I dont know where else to reduce weight. Problem with tires is going to a non-run flat that there is no tires made out there in the sizes we need them
#65
#66
There are plenty of ways to reduce weight. The seats are easily a 100+ lbs reduction on their own. Just going to a PS2 or any non run flat is 20lbs. Then a straight cut exhaust could be worth as much as 50-60 lbs. Then the rear seats, battery etc. etc.
To guys that are trying to go faster, that is the first thing you do to utilize the power you already have, but no one seems to ever mention what they took out of the car.
To guys that are trying to go faster, that is the first thing you do to utilize the power you already have, but no one seems to ever mention what they took out of the car.
I agree with you there. There does seem to be a gap of 3-4 mph on the traps but there is also the same deal with a gap between dynos to with a car doing 390- 430 stock on the dyno
No one that I know of has done any worthy weight reduction because honestly there really isnt much to reduce. Other than what you said about seats and tires I dont know where else to reduce weight. Problem with tires is going to a non-run flat that there is no tires made out there in the sizes we need them
No one that I know of has done any worthy weight reduction because honestly there really isnt much to reduce. Other than what you said about seats and tires I dont know where else to reduce weight. Problem with tires is going to a non-run flat that there is no tires made out there in the sizes we need them
#67
There are plenty of ways to reduce weight. The seats are easily a 100+ lbs reduction on their own. Just going to a PS2 or any non run flat is 20lbs. Then a straight cut exhaust could be worth as much as 50-60 lbs. Then the rear seats, battery etc. etc.
To guys that are trying to go faster, that is the first thing you do to utilize the power you already have, but no one seems to ever mention what they took out of the car.
To guys that are trying to go faster, that is the first thing you do to utilize the power you already have, but no one seems to ever mention what they took out of the car.
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