^ I didn't see any CCX, Zonda etc... in the quote you were responding to in your previous post. Why do you keep bringing these up?

I may have missed it (on the numerous boards and threads), but have you yet explained the hp/weight ratio of the CCX running a slower 'Ring time than an MC12?

And who are these other 'drivers' that lapped faster than Steve Millen, and what times did they put up? And what are those times when compared to Millen's time in the GT-R.

Could you please address those questions?

(Without going off on tangents and distractions)

 

It was the previous one, but does it matter? You said Nissan was using ringers. They were not. Period.

Wrong. If by "high speed performance" you mean in a perfectly straight line, then yes. If by "high speed performance" you mean its stability in high-speed, sweeping corners, then no. The 'Ring is a fast track, but it's still full of corners. Depending on how you count them, the 'Ring has 73+ corners and only 1 section where you're going straight and long enough to hit 270+ kph. 73 vs 1, monaro. Think about that for a minute. The 'Ring isn't some superspeedway. And if it were, the GT-R would crush the Viper ACR (oops!).



I know these constitute your lifeblood, but rumor and innuendo are no substitutions for proof. If C&D became a hired Nissan gun, then why did they post such poor acceleration times for the GT-R?
Did every mag or show that had the GT-R beating the Z06 and Turbo become a hired Nissan gun? TopGear? R&T? Evo? Car? Autocar? 5th Gear? Auto Motor und Sport? Automovil? You can claim the earth is flat for only so long.



Definitely...is that why the Z06 was utterly crushed by the GT-R on the speedway?
Sport Auto test results:
Turbo - 7:54
Z06 - 7:49
GT3 - 7:40
GT-R - 7:38
Did the Z06 and Turbo claw back? No. Notice that the GT3 is also ahead of the Turbo and Z06 by sizeable margins. Are you saying the GT3 is faster than the Z06 and Turbo in a straight line?

Rohrl, who could only get a 7:54 after hundreds of laps in the GT-R, while an unnamed journalist working for AMuS, timed over the full course, beat that time by 7 seconds with only a few laps. More like 12 seconds if timed w/o the pit straight.
Alain Prost? You keep mentioning this F1 great saying that, but have you provided a shred of evidence that he said that?
Steve Sutcliffe is so all over the map with the GT-R, you won't know what he says next. Did you know that he claimed cheating on Nissan because they did not include the pit straight in the timing?
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anyth.../15/20155.aspx
Porsche? LOL. Last I heard, Porsche was in the business of selling, um, Turbos. Not GT-R's.
HvS. Driving at less than 100%, with VDC still engaged, and only ~8 laps total.



How about using same-day tests? The F430 and LP560-4 are competitors to the GT2, right?

Car Magazine @ Anglesey
1:01.5 - LP560-4
1:00.6 - GT-R
1:01.2 - GT2

Car & Driver @ VIR
2:54.6 - F430 Scuderia
2:55.6 - GT-R

Car & Driver @ Buttonwillow
1:59.7 - GT2
2:01.1 - GT-R (this one was slower in a straight line than M3's)
Autocar @ Isle of Man
1:55.99 - LP560-4
1:56.69* - GT-R
*"But, there's a caveat. This thing [GT-R] is limited to 112 mph because of laws they have in Japan. And it sat on 112 mph for about 10-11 seconds on the road route. If it had gone beyond that, it would have blitzed the Lamborghini."

Evo @ Bedford Autodrome
1:23.3 - Carrera GT
1:23.5 - GT2
1:23.6 - GT-R

R&T @ Streets of Willow
1:08.45 - LP560-4
1:08.90 - GT-R
1:09.77 - GT2

R&T @ Willow Springs
1:31.23 - GT-R
1:31.32 - LP560-4
1:33.57 - GT2

Also, look at the Sport Auto test results you posted:
On the shorter, tighter Hockenheim club circuit, the GT-R was slower than the GT2 by 3.32%
On the faster, wider Nordschleife, the GT-R was slower than the GT2 by 1.10%. Haha! Your theory that the GT-R is automatically slower on longer, faster tracks is shot dead again.

Oh c'mon, now monaro. Are you going to start making excuses for them like you've made for GM, too? It's funny how you don't accept that those other cars (Enzo, Zonda, ZR1, ACR, etc) might not have been running optimally.
In the case of Sport Auto, maybe they were experiencing what many other mags have noticed about the Lambo's brakes: they're utter sh1te, especially for the price of the car and its intended purpose.
And what are these "stock tires" for the LP560-4?



Don't give me this junk about downforce and "low and medium speeds more than making up for deficiencies." The 'Ring is a fast track, remember?? It's exactly like a quarter-mile dragstrip, or a high-speed straight highway run. "On the 'Ring, hp/wt is king™!" There's no way the CCX can be 10+ seconds slower. Dodge sent a ringer!

 

It was on auto pilot. What a boring car.

 

Funny, but the autopilot has already managed to crash a few.

 

Bad drivers out there, imagine that!

 

So it was a bad auto pilot program? What exactly are you trying to say???