TopGear Australia (06/2009)
#31
^ I didn't see any CCX, Zonda etc... in the quote you were responding to in your previous post. Why do you keep bringing these up?
I may have missed it (on the numerous boards and threads), but have you yet explained the hp/weight ratio of the CCX running a slower 'Ring time than an MC12?
And who are these other 'drivers' that lapped faster than Steve Millen, and what times did they put up? And what are those times when compared to Millen's time in the GT-R.
Could you please address those questions?
(Without going off on tangents and distractions)
I may have missed it (on the numerous boards and threads), but have you yet explained the hp/weight ratio of the CCX running a slower 'Ring time than an MC12?
And who are these other 'drivers' that lapped faster than Steve Millen, and what times did they put up? And what are those times when compared to Millen's time in the GT-R.
Could you please address those questions?
(Without going off on tangents and distractions)
#32
However when you start comparing the GTR to the like of the Ferrari Enzo's, ACR's, Zonda's then damn you would be a fool to believe that the GTR can actually keep up with those proper supercars on a long fast track. One of the GTR's know weaknesses is it's high speed performance.
Did every mag or show that had the GT-R beating the Z06 and Turbo become a hired Nissan gun? TopGear? R&T? Evo? Car? Autocar? 5th Gear? Auto Motor und Sport? Automovil? You can claim the earth is flat for only so long.
Sport Auto test results:
Turbo - 7:54
Z06 - 7:49
GT3 - 7:40
GT-R - 7:38
Did the Z06 and Turbo claw back? No. Notice that the GT3 is also ahead of the Turbo and Z06 by sizeable margins. Are you saying the GT3 is faster than the Z06 and Turbo in a straight line?
Alain Prost? You keep mentioning this F1 great saying that, but have you provided a shred of evidence that he said that?
Steve Sutcliffe is so all over the map with the GT-R, you won't know what he says next. Did you know that he claimed cheating on Nissan because they did not include the pit straight in the timing?
http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/anyth.../15/20155.aspx
Porsche? LOL. Last I heard, Porsche was in the business of selling, um, Turbos. Not GT-R's.
HvS. Driving at less than 100%, with VDC still engaged, and only ~8 laps total.
Car Magazine @ Anglesey
1:01.5 - LP560-4
1:00.6 - GT-R
1:01.2 - GT2
Car & Driver @ VIR
2:54.6 - F430 Scuderia
2:55.6 - GT-R
Car & Driver @ Buttonwillow
1:59.7 - GT2
2:01.1 - GT-R (this one was slower in a straight line than M3's)
Autocar @ Isle of Man
1:55.99 - LP560-4
1:56.69* - GT-R
*"But, there's a caveat. This thing [GT-R] is limited to 112 mph because of laws they have in Japan. And it sat on 112 mph for about 10-11 seconds on the road route. If it had gone beyond that, it would have blitzed the Lamborghini."
Evo @ Bedford Autodrome
1:23.3 - Carrera GT
1:23.5 - GT2
1:23.6 - GT-R
R&T @ Streets of Willow
1:08.45 - LP560-4
1:08.90 - GT-R
1:09.77 - GT2
R&T @ Willow Springs
1:31.23 - GT-R
1:31.32 - LP560-4
1:33.57 - GT2
Also, look at the Sport Auto test results you posted:
On the shorter, tighter Hockenheim club circuit, the GT-R was slower than the GT2 by 3.32%
On the faster, wider Nordschleife, the GT-R was slower than the GT2 by 1.10%. Haha! Your theory that the GT-R is automatically slower on longer, faster tracks is shot dead again.
Now why did the Lambo achieve such slow Sport Auto time? my guess is that it was for similar reason as the ZO6 i.e. they just found the car harder to control and couldnt get the best time from it. Sport Auto did blame the optional tires (not adopted perfectly with the ABS system (which I would guess was set up using the stock tires)) for the handling deficiencies.
In the case of Sport Auto, maybe they were experiencing what many other mags have noticed about the Lambo's brakes: they're utter sh1te, especially for the price of the car and its intended purpose.
And what are these "stock tires" for the LP560-4?
The ACR is a great short track car and also a great medium track car, even though it looses out for top speed around the Nurburgring it's low and medium speed abilities more than makes up for these deffeciencies. The ACR can also accelerate to its max in a very short time. The thing holding the ACR back is its huge downforce, this is also what keeps it fast around corners.
#36
So it was a bad auto pilot program? What exactly are you trying to say???