My new (to me) GT-R
#121
10-20-2010, 09:05 AM
The fact is even stock motors can blow up, LS7's being the prime example. When something is new like a GTR, there is a learning curve when you start tuning and sometimes there are bad consequences in some cases and thats life, you just hope its not your car! I am sure all tuners have a customers that can tell you a similar story, especially the guy that had to be the FIRST! but the good tuners will figure it out and develop something fast and safe. I have had my tune for about 8 or 9 months now and the car has behaved just like a stocker (trouble free) until I push it and then its just awesome! I know a couple guys who have the same tune as me and they have had it several months longer than I have and they have been trouble free also, so maybe Jack has figured out the tunes limit? I don't know what tuner is the best, the safest or the fastest, I guess you just have to go with who you feel comfortable with.
I agree man and there is nothing wrong with going with HPLogic. In my humble opinion, I just felt that if a tuner had a little history of blowing *a few* VR38's, even if he is 100% safe now, for me I just would rather have somebody else mod it who has been more conservative and has never damaged these motors. Hell, I have been tempted to go with Jack's tune myself, especially after seeing my friend's GT-R in action. But it's just a comfort level thing and for me it's just a personal decision. I like the way Switzer tunes the GT-R so that it is torquey throughout the entire powerband but the boost and AFR's stays within a safe and more conservative range (I datalogged with Switzer's tune and there was 0 knock under all sorts of loads). I daily drive the car as well as race it and push it pretty hard so I wanted to be 100% comfortable. I may not be the fastest but I do feel safe and can push the car to it's limits without worrying (not that you or any of Jack's customers can't either though!). Also, you are a freak driver and you always get the best out of every car. Congrats on having a wicked fast car with such minimal mods and props at extracting every bit of performance out of this car and the other ones in your stable
#122
10-20-2010, 09:16 AM
I agree man and there is nothing wrong with going with HPLogic. In my humble opinion, I just felt that if a tuner had a little history of blowing *a few* VR38's, even if he is 100% safe now, for me I just would rather have somebody else mod it who has been more conservative and has never damaged these motors. Hell, I have been tempted to go with Jack's tune myself, especially after seeing my friend's GT-R in action. But it's just a comfort level thing and for me it's just a personal decision. I like the way Switzer tunes the GT-R so that it is torquey throughout the entire powerband but the boost and AFR's stays within a safe and more conservative range (I datalogged with Switzer's tune and there was 0 knock under all sorts of loads). I daily drive the car as well as race it and push it pretty hard so I wanted to be 100% comfortable. I may not be the fastest but I do feel safe and can push the car to it's limits without worrying (not that you or any of Jack's customers can't either though!). Also, you are a freak driver and you always get the best out of every car. Congrats on having a wicked fast car with such minimal mods and props at extracting every bit of performance out of this car and the other ones in your stable
I have seen other shops custom tune with same mods.. run 130 (Ams) forged , Spe also 129.xx , HB in Ca 131mph.. maybe your tune is extra safe?
#123
10-20-2010, 09:21 AM
Well again, it was a very bad night at the track. High humidity, temps in the 90's, and track prep is notoriously horrendous (research Island Dragway aka the Ice Skating Rink). My friend who traps 130 with his GT-R was trapping 124-126 that night so my times definitely would have been much better at a place like Englishtown and on a nice fall evening. But I do also believe that my tune is very safe and Switzer went extra conservative as well since their theory is that the stock GT-R turbos run out of efficiency pretty easily and that to push the stock turbos too hard is just putting stress on the motor and turbos.
#124
10-20-2010, 09:35 AM
Well again, it was a very bad night at the track. High humidity, temps in the 90's, and track prep is notoriously horrendous (research Island Dragway aka the Ice Skating Rink). My friend who traps 130 with his GT-R was trapping 124-126 that night so my times definitely would have been much better at a place like Englishtown and on a nice fall evening. But I do also believe that my tune is very safe and Switzer went extra conservative as well since their theory is that the stock GT-R turbos run out of efficiency pretty easily and that to push the stock turbos too hard is just putting stress on the motor and turbos.
well if your friend who traps 130 was trapping 124ish.. then you should be trapping 128 ..that perfectly inline!
when are you going to step up to a P800
?
#125
10-20-2010, 09:38 AM
We'll see what happens
I'm a speed freak but I'm also very young and not sure if this is the wisest decision lol but then again, none of my car decisions have been too conservative and I'm still here and happy haha
#126
10-20-2010, 10:03 AM
Funny you ask that because I just PM'ed Neil about that
We'll see what happens I'm a speed freak but I'm also very young and not sure if this is the wisest decision lol but then again, none of my car decisions have been too conservative and I'm still here and happy haha
We'll see what happens
I'm a speed freak but I'm also very young and not sure if this is the wisest decision lol but then again, none of my car decisions have been too conservative and I'm still here and happy hahaI say do it! 700whp is very tame, but also very quick on a GTR...
will make you smile everytime you hop in that car!
#127
10-20-2010, 11:01 AM
I know....eh we'll see my man! lol Sorry to get off topic here anyway. Good luck on the build Vegas. I'm sure your car will be a fire breathing monster.
#128
10-20-2010, 11:24 AM
We will see same day same track how we all run. Should be very fun day!
ItalianStallion, Bring your car up to MIR track Friday and run with us.
#129
10-20-2010, 11:53 AM
I will be taking my GTR with Switzer tune this Friday to track. I sure hope to hit 127+ mph and would be very happy with a 10 sec pass. I think Scott will have his there too. So we will see what kind of MPH we can make with Switzer. Also... Jamie's car HP Lodic, AAM, and AMS GTR's will all be there.
We will see same day same track how we all run. Should be very fun day!
ItalianStallion, Bring your car up to MIR track Friday and run with us.
We will see same day same track how we all run. Should be very fun day!
ItalianStallion, Bring your car up to MIR track Friday and run with us.
#130
10-20-2010, 12:50 PM
I will be taking my GTR with Switzer tune this Friday to track. I sure hope to hit 127+ mph and would be very happy with a 10 sec pass. I think Scott will have his there too. So we will see what kind of MPH we can make with Switzer. Also... Jamie's car HP Lodic, AAM, and AMS GTR's will all be there.
We will see same day same track how we all run. Should be very fun day!
ItalianStallion, Bring your car up to MIR track Friday and run with us.
We will see same day same track how we all run. Should be very fun day!
ItalianStallion, Bring your car up to MIR track Friday and run with us.
I think there will be some 9 sec passes that day AAM's car is making 800ish ..
make sure you guys video the runs !!
