Man a 911 tt costs like what 550k here, and a new GTR costs roughly about 500k.

I dont see your point.

Yeah if people had money i doubt they would even go for a 911. Id straight jump to a lambo or ferrari.

yellow stitches and conv......not cool all.

IMHO.

 

Divexxxtreme is out for blood. RUN!!

 

If my GT-R had a 24k gold grill I'd expect to pay a little more...

 

Well in this country, thats not the case.

Also, I was proving a point on the customizable nature of the Porsche vs. the GTR. So the opinion was not needed, I personally think its awesome looking and have had many compliments on how I optioned it out.

What are you guys into over there in the UAE? Dipping cars in Chrome?

 

Hahaha!!!

The Egoist is extremely customizable... Why they don't allow this in the US is beyond me. There is a myriad of options available in other countries.

HOWEVER... That being said. I like that almost all GT-R's have identical configurations - 6 ext colors, 2 int colors (no cost option of tire, and rim color through winter packages, etc...). It makes selling/purchasing so much easier. You don't have to worry about option packages, because there isn't any (except for iPod mount in '09-10's, and backup camera for '12's - basically). So when I look at a GT-R, I won't say,"Well it has this option, or that package, but what I'm really looking for is 'x'." I can just say,"I want a white one." And they all are pretty much identical.

Configuring is nice for ownership, but purchasing second hand (or selling) can be difficult, because you may not want a mustard colored seat with ketchup colored inserts and stitching (pics of said 911 are here on 6speed).

So I find that the lack of options (or abundance of standard features, depending on which way you look at it), can be both good and bad. But to know that everycar comes with bluetooth, USB interface, touch screen MFD, MusicBox, Sat/Nav, heated leather seats, auto-dimming mirrors, premium sound system, etc... is comforting.

 

I picked the 2012 gtr, and yes i can afford the Porsche, but the $ is better spent in my biz. As someone who does not keep a car long the GTR does have better resale value. I find the interior on the porsche a bit bland, this is from someone whose first "fast car ride" was a 1996 turbo S (when new...i was about 14) I look forward to the gtr coming in. There are many fast gtr's down here in south FL, sure its not a Porsche, but I'm 27 I have many years to be and old fart just teasing guys

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

Choosing a Turbo S over a GTR is little different than a Smirnoff vs Ketel 1 martini. It's not about badges, it's about what drinks better to you. There's no wrong choice. Most people buy what they like (and can afford).

 

I read through most of the comments in this thread. I found a couple by some of the Porsche owners to be a little misguided. One such statement is that GT-R owners (which I am) opted for the GT-R because they couldn't afford a 997 Turbo. I was looking at used 997TT's, as well as used GT-R's (I don't believe in buying new anymore given how fast high performance cars depreciate). If money were no object, I would have a 997TT S in my stable. With money as a consideration, I opted for the GT-R over the 997.1TT. The double clutch transmission (for me) was a big advantage over the 997.1TT's Tiptronic and manual trannys. Also, the straight line performance of the GT-R is a shade faster than the 997.1TT. So yes, money was a consideration as to why I am not driving a 997TT S, but in the context of my specific search comparing GT-Rs to 997.1TTs, the pricing was fairly even (GT-R was slightly cheaper, but not something that was much of a factor in my decision).

Tom

 

I disagree! The GT-R is already an urban legend to the young people, most refer to it as a Skyline and in Decades from now they will be the ones with the money buying the legend from their youth and that will be the GT-R, not the Porsche! When I drive my GT-R people are hanging out of their cars with the camera phones taking pictures and I am invisible when I am out in my GT2. The GT-R is an awesome performance car and holds its money better than Porsches or anything else that I have seen for that matter, low mileage GT-R's still bring high 60's low 70's, and I only paid 74k for my new 2009 so I don't know where 100k comes from? I like my GT2, but if the trend continues 10 years from now the GT-R will probably be bringing more money than my GT2 and I guarantee you it will be a lot more than 30 or 40k!

 

Nissan could learn a lesson from Toyota. And it's all in the name. Make a no holds barred car, Lexus, and engineer the cars to the highest standards. Scrap the Toyota name that is associated with cheap and thrifty.

Nissan has an excellent car in the GTR, but the Nissan brand name hurts the respect the car should garner. Like a macho guy whose unfortunate name is Oscar Dorkins. Sure it's only a name but takes away from the reality that the GTR is a great car and, like you allude to, makes it some sort of urban legend (and easily dismissed) rather than the real deal.

Porsche has built a solid name and car over many decades in the professional and consumer worlds. Their reputation over the years is making well engineered, uncompromising cars that are designed for speed and performance. They have great branding and well known mantras like, " Porsche: There is no substitute". They have history and are firmly planted in racing lore. Everyone knows a 911 and that it means business. Nissan, well, has a different name recognition response.

Nissan has a hot product but no history or credibility in the racing world. But only time will tell if it is the real deal. In the mean time, they're 1/2 price of the real thing. So enjoy now. If they consistently build their brand and better their cars, not only will the numbers beat Porsche but so might the price.

 

I would never buy an overpriced Lexus or a Porsche since they turn me off instantly, so I reject your choice of brand models. "No history or credibility in the racing world" demands that I also reject your reality and will substitute my own. Twenty years of Skylines is history enough and more people like Nissan Z-cars than the retro-looking Porsches. When the 1st GT-R came out it made every other supercar look like a POS for the money.

As for me, I never plan to sell my GT-R, so I could care less what others think it will be worth, look like, or sell like in the future. But, as for your quote above: "but the Nissan brand name hurts the respect the car should garner." my response to you is who cares? Because 95% percent of people in the world are just plain stupid and I would not trust anything they would have to say anyway.

"Like a macho guy whose unfortunate name is Oscar Dorkins." You truly missed the mark here. Greatness does overcome and can achieve its due respect. Google only the letters "ARN" and the first thing that pops up is "Arnold Schwarzenegger"! I am sure he laughs every time he visits the bank and would find your comment .

 

It sounds like to me if they put a Ferrari emblem on the GTR and asked 200k for it, it would be your type of car!

 

I don't think the GTR has that Ferrari sound.

Seriously, like Porsche, Ferrari has a long racing heritage and back to branding similarly serves one master: uncompromising performance.

Nissan is suggestive of practical autos.

This is simply marketing. The GTR is a great car. Personally, it was a life long desire for me to own my car, regardless of numbers. Money played no roll. I didn't want a GTR, a 458 Italia, or anything else. Folks buy what they like. There's no sense in comparing what one individual buys relative to another.

 

Dude, congrats!!!

I am assuming you guys are talking about the new GTR not having history. Otherwise read up because skylines (and Nissan) have been racing for decades.


And as far as the original reason for this thread I guess you can't compare on price the TTS and the GTR, but the stats are there and the GTR is a hell of a performer for the price, call it Japan's Z06 or ZR1. As fas as name and prestige (that comes with a price), well that goes to Ferdindand's cars.

And I like the P-car more but you gotta give credit where credit is due.

Now Nissan needs to make a GTR with a 6sp manual.