2012 GT-R runs 11.07 at PBI, 0-60 in 2.8.....
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04-21-2011 | 05:15 PM
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Be realistic. A 2012 GTR with a bad launch is not getting 10's. It will take a nice run to get 10's. Not that it is too hard with all of it's nannies.
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04-21-2011 | 05:23 PM
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Define 'bad launch'. What nannies does it take to go straight?
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04-21-2011 | 06:26 PM
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HKS mid-pipe, and rear section.
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04-22-2011 | 10:57 PM
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It is ONE OF the best performance for buck options out there right now. I am in now way trying to turn this into a GTR vs anything thread, but there are other options available in that price range. A Z06 with Z07 and CFZ options (essentially a ZR1 with an LS7) can be had for ~84k, weighs a good bit less than a GTR, looks better (opinion I know), has better brakes, magnetic ride suspension and has an actual manual gearbox (for pure numbers, the paddles shift faster, but its just not as fun IMO).
As I said, this is not a GTR vs X post, only meant to state there are OTHER options out there that perform just as well (a Z06 can easily reach 10's with drag radials and a good driver, and traps 124-126mph stock) for the same price range.
As I said, this is not a GTR vs X post, only meant to state there are OTHER options out there that perform just as well (a Z06 can easily reach 10's with drag radials and a good driver, and traps 124-126mph stock) for the same price range.
Difference is that 99% of GTR's(2012's) will run low 11's if not high 10's stock and 99% of Z06 owners wont go faster than high 11's stock. There are plenty of Z06's that go to our local track that cant get out of the 12's.
I'm not taking anything away from the Z06 it is just very tricky to get the car to run what it is capable of.
I'm not taking anything away from the Z06 it is just very tricky to get the car to run what it is capable of.
I agree with you. It is a harder car to launch, and get through the gears as it is RWD with a true manual gearbox, not AWD with paddles. If you are looking for consistency, the GTR is your car. I prefer the enjoyment, and satisfaction, of actually learning to launch and drive the car myself. Better than stock tires are needed, for sure, though.
The purpose of my post was just to say that there is another car that performs like the GTR, for a similar price. No matter how much skill it may take to do it, the car is capable of 10's in stock form with good rubber and a good driver.
The purpose of my post was just to say that there is another car that performs like the GTR, for a similar price. No matter how much skill it may take to do it, the car is capable of 10's in stock form with good rubber and a good driver.
Is that stock? Do they come with an HKS mid pipe and rear section?
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04-24-2011 | 05:49 PM
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There have been Z06's that have ran 10's stock down to the paper air filter, but a set of DR's will put them in the 10's for sure.
Low 11's yes...high 10's bone stock....it has not happened yet. With a Corvette the issue is traction, a set of DR's goes a long way towards the Z06 running the times its capable of. And plenty of stock cars other than DR's have ran 10's.
Low 11's yes...high 10's bone stock....it has not happened yet. With a Corvette the issue is traction, a set of DR's goes a long way towards the Z06 running the times its capable of. And plenty of stock cars other than DR's have ran 10's.
Are we quite sure that reducing tire pressures on a car that ran 11.07 won't put it into the 10's?
You're right, with the Corvette the issue is traction, but that's a limitation built into it by GM themselves. Just as 530 hp is a limitation of the GT-R.
With the GT-R, you get AWD traction and a DCT.
If we're going to talk about things like the Magnetic Ride suspension as a contributing factor to bang/buck, then I think we should also factor in the GT-R's more usefulness in inclement weather (tire for tire), the fact that it has 2 extra seats, better steering precision, better level of fit & finish, better seats, and the ability to leave it in full auto mode should the driver wish for the stop-and-go grind.
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04-24-2011 | 06:07 PM
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When you say "plenty", how many stock Z06's not on DR's have run 10's?
Are we quite sure that reducing tire pressures on a car that ran 11.07 won't put it into the 10's?
You're right, with the Corvette the issue is traction, but that's a limitation built into it by GM themselves. Just as 530 hp is a limitation of the GT-R.
With the GT-R, you get AWD traction and a DCT.
If we're going to talk about things like the Magnetic Ride suspension as a contributing factor to bang/buck, then I think we should also factor in the GT-R's more usefulness in inclement weather (tire for tire), the fact that it has 2 extra seats, better steering precision, better level of fit & finish, better seats, and the ability to leave it in full auto mode should the driver wish for the stop-and-go grind.
Are we quite sure that reducing tire pressures on a car that ran 11.07 won't put it into the 10's?
You're right, with the Corvette the issue is traction, but that's a limitation built into it by GM themselves. Just as 530 hp is a limitation of the GT-R.
With the GT-R, you get AWD traction and a DCT.
If we're going to talk about things like the Magnetic Ride suspension as a contributing factor to bang/buck, then I think we should also factor in the GT-R's more usefulness in inclement weather (tire for tire), the fact that it has 2 extra seats, better steering precision, better level of fit & finish, better seats, and the ability to leave it in full auto mode should the driver wish for the stop-and-go grind.
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04-24-2011 | 06:12 PM
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Really? Heck, I think we'll definitely see one go 10's bone stock. If someone has already gone 11.0 and they've been out for only a month or two...I think bone stock 10's are almost guaranteed.
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04-24-2011 | 06:27 PM
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How many Z06's have there been?
GT-R may not be the only car available in the bang for buck category, but if you look at it objectively (as bang/buck proponents have been doing for years), then the GT-R delivers more performance for the money. In Motor Trend's test between the '12 GT-R and Z06 w/Z07 package, the Nissan was quicker, lapped faster, and cost $7K less than the Chevy.
If we're to make allowances for the Chevy due to GM's limitations, then we should make allowances for the Nissan to make up that $7k difference. In which case, it's not looking good for the Z07.
BTW, I'm not one of those proponents of bang/buck.
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04-24-2011 | 06:37 PM
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Great cars, though. Might be the perfect car to compliment my GT-R with.
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04-25-2011 | 04:21 PM
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No doubt. With cooler weather and a good track prep. its guaranteed!