Never found my GTR to be much fun for stop-and-go traffic. The transmission is poorly designed for that role. The PDK is a pleasure to use in the city compared to the GR6

 

awesome cars to daily. it being an auto with twin disc instead of a stick makes sitting in traffic alot easier.

 

Do you really own a GTR? If you do, then you know how the GR6 surges and bucks until you become experienced using it. Even then it is not great.

 

^I own a fully built twin turbo 350Z. GTRs weren't out yet, so I built my own twin turbo nissan car. I've driven plenty. If you can't pedal a stock GTR, I would consider switching to a luxury vehicle. I have no problem driving my Z with a carbonetics triple disc clutch, let alone a stock tranny GTR. For a beginner sports car driver driver, they'll get a little hop here and there. Nothing a day of driving wouldn't remedy.

 

I figured you were just blowing smoke. I owned the GTR for over 3 years and have tracked it on numerous occasions. I am glad you know more than I about the GR6.

 

Lol. Maybe you should take some lessons next time you hit a road course. If you can't even drive that thing in traffic, you have no business on a track. Anyone with one leg can do it. its a shame ppl like you think owning a gtr makes them a pro driver after one track day. Lol. Over $80k in my car. I dont buy 100k dollar sports cars...i build em. Had plenty of time at msr houston...lmk when you wanna get embarrassed chief. You better rebuild that tranny if you wanna come close to my power level. BIYM.

 

Good Try Rookie

 

#1 He has a PDK transmission right now (which cannot be built to the extent a GR6 can)

#2 He would have to buy back his GT-R if he was to do that

#3 He probably doesn't want to do that anyway

#4 I think you read wayyyyy too far into his post. He favors the PDK over the GR6.

By the way - welcome to 6speed.

 

I didn't have to read very far into his post to see he was being a ******. And for what? Because I don't own a GTR? lol. I was polite and respectful when I entered this thread. He was not. If he can't take what he dishes out, he shouldn't be on a car forum. He is more than welcome to bring his porsche to the track.

And thanks for the welcome, Captain.

 

I'm not trying to 'stick up' for REK (he certainly does not benefit from my interjections), but he has been around GT-R forums for a little while now, and we've seen our fair share of GT-R 'experts' (actually the most exist right here on 6speed) who haven't even seen a GT-R, much less know or understand the nuances of the transmission or other parts of the car. So please don't misinterpret his skepticism for hostility.

 

I completely understand. Plenty of internet techs out there that think they know a thing or two. Plenty of my Z buddies have moved on to GTRs...most of which weren't modded to the level my car is, so it was easier to let go of for them. I have driven plenty of GTRs since their release. Most of which were modded. We have a ton of shops that specialize in the GTR (among other cars) in my area. I've dropped enough money in mods over the years to know most of the ppl in the industry. I own a forum dedicated to boost. You can find a few of these shops under the sponsor section in my forum. Not trying to reroute traffic, so I won't post the forum name here.

 

Look, I did not intend to insult anyone. I simply stated my impressions of the GR6 and my perceived deficiencies of it in city traffic after owning the car for over 3 years. You then implied that I it had more to do with the driver than the transmission. If you lived with the GTR on a regular basis, you would know that it not the case. I loved my GTR and I will probably get back into one in another 2 years. One of the major reasons I sold mine was the fact that it was modded and the early cars seem to have more transmission-related issues than the later models. With modded cars, Nissan often refuses to cover often very expensive transmission repairs or replacements.

 

sarcasm was what did it. I understand your view, but you don't need to drive a GTR for 3 years to know what you're talking about. It is true, you get a little hop here and there until you learn to be consistent with pedal...not denying that at all. But its not just the tranny. My wife's 2011 X3 35i is boosted, has drive by wire and does the same thing, to an extent. Definitely not as hard as the GTR does, but my wife handles it fine. My Z even more so. Again, boosted and drive by wire, but its a stick (and its modded..the stock setup really doesn't do it - its NA). It takes half a second for the car to react when taking off from a stand still. Even and consistent pressure help alleviate the problem which you learn after driving it for more than 5 minutes.

I thought my 2 cents was valid as I have driven but not owned a GTR. And alot of what is on the Z/G was re-engineered for the GTR.

Alot of the old Z builders like Sharrif @ Forged, Sam @ GTM, and I'm sure Switzer & AMS have tinkered with the Z & G before the GTR was available. These cars gave these shops a one-up on developing parts and know-how when it comes to operation and mods. They do share a few similarities when you see the cars torn apart.

My appologies if I was rude, but my response was reactive.

 

If the touch points on both clutches are not set right, the GR6 bucks pretty hard.

REK - have you had your touch points adjusted at all, during your ownership?

I'm asking, because you and I have had our R35's for about the same period of time (Aug '08). I remember the pre-LC2 reprogram - both of my touch points were set to 0/0, when previously they were 0/-2 (I believe), which gives some creep. But when I had 0/0, it felt like a torque converter set at 1250RPMs, and I had to be on throttle, and then launch at 1250 every time (very frustrating uphill).

Anyway, I know that the GR6 can be adjusted quite a bit, and I was wondering if you think that more creep would have smoothed out your experience? Also, the touch point of the other clutch would make the 2nd gear change smoother as well. Basically, I'm suggesting that the touch points can be set in quite a range, that you may have been able to find something more livable (softer). I know that my touch points were adjusted again (two years ago), and shifts 2,4,6 are pretty heavy, and lunge the car forward. But because I drove it in other settings, I know this can be undone.

 

agreed. Any multi disc clutch has these attributes. especially on a boosted engine.