On OEM tires?

 

Nope. Good point.

While a bunch of GT-Rs have run 9's on 20" R-Comps or OEM tires, only a couple of Porsches have done it on anything other than 18" DRs. One was Switzer's Sledgehammer 997TT on 19" R888s.

 

I went to page 7! So from 8sec to 11sec there are 105 cars on these 7 pages. 13 out of the 105 are porsches turbo, the rest are gt-r's. Wow!

 

No doubt, Nissan is getting the GT/R honed as a real hard balled sports car and for 2013 they made sure they keep the momentum and the - for sports fanatics only - direction. Now let's see what the new 991T will have to show next year. The price difference including Sales / VAT tax will be getting really close to 100K dollars in the US , about 200K dollars in some other countries, Australia, Hong-Kong / Singapore and others. Exciting times for sure!!

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...to-2012-page-8

At Car & Driver's Lightning Lap the 997 Turbo S ran a 2:57.5 lap on VIR's Grand Course. A '12 GT-R ran 2:53.2 and an '09 GT-R ran 2:55.6. They even ran an '09 GT-R with the OEM All season tires to a 2:59.0 lap time. The only caveats are that the Lightning Laps were different times and possibly different drivers from year to year. Although they do mention that they try to be very consistent and use only the best lap times from a handful of attempts each year.

As far as dealer service....I have had many "special" cars through the years (E39 M5, Audi RS6, CL65 AMG...etc) and I have found the Nissan service to be just as good...if not better than the others. When I bring the GT-R in to my Nissan dealer for service...there is almost a sense of occassion and the service advisor and service manager actually verbalize how much they appreciate my visit and how they will take special care of my GT-R. I have been given a loaner right away (the last two times I got a brand new Maxima SE). Contrast that with an almost "snooty" attitude displayed at other "high-end" dealers and an Enterprise rentals that were mediocre at best.

Tom

 

But it is also possible that not everybody reports their runs on that page. I know I didn't.

 

For sure! But it's just overwhelming the majority of gtr's!

 

Scott,

Did Switzer have to open the motor on your current car (IE can one make 900whp on a stock block)?

Back to the aesthetics, some like blonds, some like brunettes. Guys on the GT-R forum probably find the car good looking ( I have friends w/ ugly wife's who think they are beautiful).


But as I mentioned, that is not what draws me to the GT-R. I want the performance. I am looking to get into another roll on King and in my neck of the woods, an 800 rwhp GT2 can no longer hang. Someone asked if there were still some Porsche roll on monsters and yes, there are several cars over 1100 whp, but they are sticks and you simply cannot compete with the PDK shifters. Unless you have 350 large and can have a stage 3 UR Lambo, they GT-R is going to be the King of roll ons which is my primary interest.

 

All Switzer GT-Rs beyond the P800 package have built motors. 700 awhp/600 awtq is about the max you want to put on the block. Peter's P800 (93 octane only) runs on stock motor and stock tranny and is one fast MF. It would have been a very good race against my GT2 (on 100 octane) from a roll. The P800 package is absolutely the best bang for the buck package around, IMO.

My car has a built motor, built tranny and makes 927/750 on 93. Drives like stock.

Call me anytime and I'll give you the scoop.

 

^^^ you my friend are Winning! I can't even imagine what your car must feel like. I was shotgun in a friends 2012 GTR at a runway event and that thing took off like a rocket ship. If I recall correctly it was stock too.

Jitsu.. just do it bro! I get my car from Switzer sometime next week. Even though it is just the "starter" kit...LOL... I am sure it will be quite entertaining to drive.

 

Scott. That's astonishing numbers for pump gas, its higher than the R911 on race gas. A 9 second daily driver. That's just insane! Are there any videos or pictures of your car posted?

 

I am at work, Scott....you have PM.

 

Only one. A comparison vid I made against my buddy's P800. Link below.

As far as 9-second daily, it truly is. I have already ran multiple 9's in full street trim (at over 4000 lbs) on my 20" street tires, but the weather was very hot and humid that day and my launch RPM was too low for the R888s. Now that we've made a few tweaks, I plan on going back to the track on a cooler day and will post my results afterwards.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...matevsP800.mp4

 

If you read that article closely and look at all the testing The 911 beat it in every single category. Case Closed

 

I think you need to re-read the article even closer... the figure 8 handling which is a good test of transitional handling showed the GT-R doing it in 23.0s vs the 997 Turbo S's 23.2s time. Also, the GT-R pulled 1.03g lateral acceleration vs the 997 Turbo S's 1.02g. The subjective handling impressions seems to be where the editors favored the GT-R. The 997 Turbo S did beat the GT-R in every straight line performance measure.... but that is hardly "every single category".

I own a GT-R but I find the 997 Turbo S highly desirable (I have said many times that a 997 Turbo S would be sitting in my garage if money were no object). You seem to selectively ignore facts in "closing your case". With any car comparison there is very rarely a "case closed" argument....unless of course you are dealing with fanatics...and remember only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes...

Tom