What car should I get?
#16
Thanks for the advice guys! At this point the GT-R is still in the back of my mind and is still an option for me but I'm starting to lean towards either a HPF Stage 2.5 M3 or a C6 Z06. If I did get a GT-R I would be able to do some moderate modding. My goal is to have around 700whp on pump and I'm thinking that would cost me a good penny on the GT-R. I believe the GT-R has a curb weight of 3800 pounds so I was wondering if that plays a bad role with you GT-R guys.
#17
I would not suggest Pro EFI for the OP. Keep it simple. Run Cobb AP. If you want more failsafes and a way better EMS go with Syvecs hands down. But be aware it will cost you a pretty penny. And Rackthis I know you are getting him dealer prices but, those are high. You can get yourself into a Carbon Ceramic front brake set up around that price. Since the GTR has come out there has been a lot of advancements in aftermarket support. But yes trans fluid is pricey. I paid I think $480 for my dodson trans fluid.
OP- I would not shoot for over 600 awhp on stock rods. But even at around that power that is a mid 10sec 1/4 mile car easily. And it will hold its own on roll racing. You could easily just throw piston and rods in the bottom end and be good for A LOT of power. The next failure point would be the trans, which is big money if you want bug power to hold. My trans costed me $26k. But there are options for around 7k that will hold a good amout of torque. I would just keep it simple. Throw piston and rods in there, do a small SIR turbo upgrade, you could wait on the trans and keep power low or go with Stg2/2.5 trans upgrade from shep or ssp. Simple two walbro 485s pumps, and some injectors (ID1000/2000, SIR injectors, etc), then get it tuned with Cobb. You will be faster then most things on the road with that super simple set up and still be daily friendly.
OP- I would not shoot for over 600 awhp on stock rods. But even at around that power that is a mid 10sec 1/4 mile car easily. And it will hold its own on roll racing. You could easily just throw piston and rods in the bottom end and be good for A LOT of power. The next failure point would be the trans, which is big money if you want bug power to hold. My trans costed me $26k. But there are options for around 7k that will hold a good amout of torque. I would just keep it simple. Throw piston and rods in there, do a small SIR turbo upgrade, you could wait on the trans and keep power low or go with Stg2/2.5 trans upgrade from shep or ssp. Simple two walbro 485s pumps, and some injectors (ID1000/2000, SIR injectors, etc), then get it tuned with Cobb. You will be faster then most things on the road with that super simple set up and still be daily friendly.
#18
^^^ I have NEVER heard of Cobb pulling power after a tune is installed. I personally know of mine plus 6 others locally that never have to do that. I know a whole bunch more of my friends over the country that don't have to do this as well. So I dont know what issue your buddy is running into.
And Pro Efi (Jason) is releasing there new version very soon. And yes Pro Efi worked really well in the Supra scene with true dummy proof flex fuel set up. There are only a few GTRs that are running flawlessly on Pro Efi.
Syveccs, I am not sure about true flex fuel. I never really cared since it so easy for me to change maps on my Cobb and if I decide to go Syveccs I dont "need" the true flex fuel ability. Its more of all the failsafes and how fast the unit works. And where I get my pump E85, I have ALWAYS get between E83-E85, most of the time its E84-E85. I know because in my Built Stroker Super I have a Ethanol content digital gauge.
Also for the OP. A bolt on GTR running E85 on a good tune will light up a 700whp Vette. :-) The GTR is a over al better car then any other car you have listed. I know from personal driving experience. Not just biased to the GTR. The only other fun car that I would look forward to buying is a 997 GT3RS.
And Pro Efi (Jason) is releasing there new version very soon. And yes Pro Efi worked really well in the Supra scene with true dummy proof flex fuel set up. There are only a few GTRs that are running flawlessly on Pro Efi.
Syveccs, I am not sure about true flex fuel. I never really cared since it so easy for me to change maps on my Cobb and if I decide to go Syveccs I dont "need" the true flex fuel ability. Its more of all the failsafes and how fast the unit works. And where I get my pump E85, I have ALWAYS get between E83-E85, most of the time its E84-E85. I know because in my Built Stroker Super I have a Ethanol content digital gauge.
Also for the OP. A bolt on GTR running E85 on a good tune will light up a 700whp Vette. :-) The GTR is a over al better car then any other car you have listed. I know from personal driving experience. Not just biased to the GTR. The only other fun car that I would look forward to buying is a 997 GT3RS.
#19
^^ Yeah I have been really looking into the GT-Rs and they just dominate! I thought the weight would really be a big negative but with everything I've seen the GT-R is the ultimate car.
#20
Looks like you're a sharp buyer and doin a lot of readings regarding different ECUs the GTR is a great car both for DD and some fun. I have a 2010 GTR, an 03 M3 turbo,and an 03 996 tt all with ProEfi ECM with flex fuel and a great tuner, nuff said. If u ended up buyin a GTR keep it around 650 awhp for longevity and reliability it's more than what u need on the street.
#21
^^^Whos your tuner bud? He must be really good and likes working with Pro Efi since you run it in 3 cars. :-)
And it seems like there are a few GTR owners here, is anyone on either of the 2 GTR forums?
And it seems like there are a few GTR owners here, is anyone on either of the 2 GTR forums?
#22
Looks like you're a sharp buyer and doin a lot of readings regarding different ECUs the GTR is a great car both for DD and some fun. I have a 2010 GTR, an 03 M3 turbo,and an 03 996 tt all with ProEfi ECM with flex fuel and a great tuner, nuff said. If u ended up buyin a GTR keep it around 650 awhp for longevity and reliability it's more than what u need on the street.
#23
My long block is at AMS right now. They are hands down AMAZING! I can put you in touch with Eric over there if you need. But it sounds like a build from them will be over the budget you wanted to stay with. If you are looking for power you described, just keep it super simple with bolt ons. Just find a good tuner for a custom tune. Tim Bailey might be the closest to you but himself and well as other can go email tuning with you. Which would be just fine at the power level you are trying to achieve. Good luck on the search bud.
#24
My long block is at AMS right now. They are hands down AMAZING! I can put you in touch with Eric over there if you need. But it sounds like a build from them will be over the budget you wanted to stay with. If you are looking for power you described, just keep it super simple with bolt ons. Just find a good tuner for a custom tune. Tim Bailey might be the closest to you but himself and well as other can go email tuning with you. Which would be just fine at the power level you are trying to achieve. Good luck on the search bud.
#25
Thanks man I appreciate it! If you don't mind me asking, how much is AMS doing your long block for you? I would love to build a GT-R from ground up so I'm not worried about adding more power when I want it and I wouldn't have to worry about stock internals taking more than they should.
#26
AMS is an awesome company and worth every penny. If this is your daily driving avoid a heavily modified car. I've had a dozen or so modified vehicles from several different tuners. Simple bolt on stuff has typically been reliable. Built engines, standalone ECU's, etc., can be quirky and problematic. Not always but often enough. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
#27
^^^ I have NEVER heard of Cobb pulling power after a tune is installed. I personally know of mine plus 6 others locally that never have to do that. I know a whole bunch more of my friends over the country that don't have to do this as well. So I dont know what issue your buddy is running into.
And Pro Efi (Jason) is releasing there new version very soon. And yes Pro Efi worked really well in the Supra scene with true dummy proof flex fuel set up. There are only a few GTRs that are running flawlessly on Pro Efi.
Syveccs, I am not sure about true flex fuel. I never really cared since it so easy for me to change maps on my Cobb and if I decide to go Syveccs I dont "need" the true flex fuel ability. Its more of all the failsafes and how fast the unit works. And where I get my pump E85, I have ALWAYS get between E83-E85, most of the time its E84-E85. I know because in my Built Stroker Super I have a Ethanol content digital gauge.
Also for the OP. A bolt on GTR running E85 on a good tune will light up a 700whp Vette. :-) The GTR is a over al better car then any other car you have listed. I know from personal driving experience. Not just biased to the GTR. The only other fun car that I would look forward to buying is a 997 GT3RS.
And Pro Efi (Jason) is releasing there new version very soon. And yes Pro Efi worked really well in the Supra scene with true dummy proof flex fuel set up. There are only a few GTRs that are running flawlessly on Pro Efi.
Syveccs, I am not sure about true flex fuel. I never really cared since it so easy for me to change maps on my Cobb and if I decide to go Syveccs I dont "need" the true flex fuel ability. Its more of all the failsafes and how fast the unit works. And where I get my pump E85, I have ALWAYS get between E83-E85, most of the time its E84-E85. I know because in my Built Stroker Super I have a Ethanol content digital gauge.
Also for the OP. A bolt on GTR running E85 on a good tune will light up a 700whp Vette. :-) The GTR is a over al better car then any other car you have listed. I know from personal driving experience. Not just biased to the GTR. The only other fun car that I would look forward to buying is a 997 GT3RS.
If you are not sure the Syvecs has true flex fuel then how can you make a statement that the Syvecs is better hands down. There are no absolutes.
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