It takes years of specialized training to use a leaf blower like that(lol)also i did not know pics of myself on 6speed could add fifty or sixty pounds,got to get in the gym again but i am to busy doing everyone's cars!!

 

it''s the lense...

FTR my car looks AMAZING !!!!!! better than new !!!!!!

 

Pacific Car wash on Bascom for $27.

I have a problem when people don't post their prices, but that just might be my paranoia (or self preservation).

Having been ripped of by 6 Speed sponsors ($2500 for clear bra, and a poor job at that) I fall into the category of "once bitten twice shy"

However, I'm open minded enough to entertain arguments as to why prices (by sponsors) shouldn't be published. They after all are using the websites to tout their services,so why stop short of including pricing?

E.G. Bob Willis may be the greatest detailer in the world, but he will never get my business until I know his pricing is competitive. I don't need to be massaged, I need to understand the value proposition. If he has a value proposition he will get all my business and recommendations.

Again, why the secrets and coyness?

 

err, it's a forum rule to not advertise services/goods for business unless you are a sponsor

i am not endorsing bob but i have not heard any bad remarks about his service. if you want prices, just call or PM him for it. he is just abiding by the forum rules.

 

Well..............

As the previous poster has made crystal clear,this is not an area to post my prices and info about myself as people(sponsors)pay a great deal of money to place ads space here on 6Speed,if you look in the detailing section Moe posts as a sponsor because in addition to the mobile service he provides in So-Cal he now sells detailing chemicals and equipment as well as Detailers Domain.I have an affiliation with someone who sells Chemicals as well and we are working on a website to promote this and we are planning to be a SPONSOR here on 6Speed,but until that time i do not schill myself.

If you look at anything i comment about myself,it is always a answer to someone who has posted about me,now as to this latest post if this guy is who i think you are i have watched you attack Sam and Wilson @ Premier for quite awhile on F-Chat,Rennlist etc... and they took the the high road and tried not to counter attack on the forums because it is a waste of time,well most of the time and in a half assed way you came after me and Alex@ Sharkwerks after i commented on a thread about the thread being a "lovefest" from what i hear and see you have considerable financial means yet everything is about Pricepoint with you,there is a reason a Porsche costs more than economy car because of the fit and finish,performance etc.. no one is being " coy " about pricing if you READ the thread i say pm me for info.

Pricing is based upon the condition of the car,and the size plus other factors such as how far i travel to someone's home from my home base in Pleasanton,also the original person who posted sounded like he was looking for a wash service though my service is for more in depth detailing specifically paint correction.Anyway opinions are like ******** everyone has one.

 

Bob,

Kudos to you for obeying the forum rules, and I hope things go well for you.

However, given the extent of your posts, it is an easy mistake/assumption to make, and point was about Sponsors not posting prices.

I didn't think you did hand car washes, and that was the info asked for.

With regards to others and perceived attacks, I have had many conversations with SharkWerks and never an unpleasant word (I'm sure Alex will chime in) and always the high road.

With regard to Premier (whom you brought up,not me), they get the (poor) reference they deserve for the work (value proposition) they did on my car. As for them taking the high road, I don't think so (see below). They tried a few (dirty?) tactics to get me banned because I wasn't part of their positive reinforcement process.

Sure, you can always position dissatisfaction as an attack, or you can take it as constructive criticism (and improve); and as a potential new customer you can use it a reference point to ensure better service. Remember, Caveat Emptor

They can't have it both ways, if they want to tout their greatness then they should be prepared for some reaction. Some of the individuals you mention even agree that my car is poor example of "clearbra" installation. If my comments help make potential consumers more aware of the value choices, pitfalls, etc. then everybody wins because competition improves service.


It is not a good idea to quote or report 2nd or 3rd hand conversations or interpretations of them. The facts can be distorted or at best misunderstood. I am no match for the mighty Premier "public relations" machine.

I realize as potential sources of additional business you have to maintain good relationships (with Sponsors), but don't let that cloud your objectivity. Sometimes, customers might just be very accurate and on point, about value.

As regards to price point, everything in Corporate America today is about price point (and value). I think everyone is trolling these sites looking for value; be it price, availability, information or options, etc

I wish you well in your new endeavors, and I have heard great things about your work, but I seriously doubt you any interest in just doing car washes, that is about a price point too.

 

fwiw, yes, i was just looking for a car wash place and their pricing. appreciate the referrals for details though as at some point we have to get the car detailed.

i wish there was a mobile car wash that will come to my house, hook up their DI water thingamajig, and will also clean the inside barrel of my rims (which is not very hard to do on the gt3 stock rims even w/o taking them off).

peace

 

Colm,

As i suspected it was you,there is no vast right wing conspiracy to ban you from the boards this one or any other? what is hard to understand is your never ending attack on Premier,if the job was so bad why did you not take your 430 right back to them to have ANY quality problems resolved on the spot??As almost all of my customers have had Premier wrap thier vehicles some of which have exotics in the milliondollar plus category,one MY customers was one of the first people in the country to have his entire Enzo wrapped and on that car Premier worked all night to get the job done right.

As for my situation to post prices does not work because each job is unique,my labor rate is based @ $75.00 per hour and some vehicles it is emperative i look at the car first to see the true condition of the paint surfaces and interior under the scrutiny of a sun gun or halogen light to see how much paint correction is required and being mobile as i am work conditions can vary from very good(like today at Knicks house) to really bad wear lighting is difficult etc.... for example most modern european paints are ceramic based and are scratch resistant but require much longer polishing times to correct paint defects,also the paints are MUCH thinner than they used to be so the margin for error in thin(pun intended).In conclusion an emphasis on value for value sake screams of shall we say thriftyness read: cheapness, colm remember when something hits the forums there is a record word for word of what was said,why stir up sh** constantly for no good reason? what is the end game?? is there an agenda on your part??.

 

I support Bob's philosophy of not quoting prices. With cars becoming more specialized and margin of error being thin, why would you want to shop around for the best deal. High-end detailers are a special breed. We've devoted our whole life to detailing cars the same way the manufacturer has built it with care. If you needed a knee surgery, had a tumor, or needed angioplasty, would you be shopping for a competitive bid? This is the problem with the marketplace. Guys like Bob are trying to educate the consumer so mediocre detailers will no longer damage cars that are costing as much, if not more, as a house. In life, you ALWAYS get what you pay for. If you had a bad experience with a high-end service provider, remember sometimes people have an off day and you should give them a second chance. The value with a high-end detailer is that he's insured, he employs LEGAL staff, stands by his work, and is going to be around for many years. We need the support of the marketplace to survive. We charge what we do because we save you time and deliver you results 9 out of 10 detailers can't. I always give a range that a job may cost without seeing it. This is to give the consumer an idea of the scope and relative cost of what to expect. You lay out the facts and let common sense do the rest. I think that's excellent value!

 

Bob - Auto concierge did a full detail on my QP, inside/out/engine
car is better then when delievered!
very nice guy/staff!!!!

I am 1000% satisfied!!!!!!!!
Thanks again

 

Well there you go,as Moe stated for guys that do what we do there are cost factors that hacks do not incur such as my insurance.Do you know i have garage keeper insurance that covers me in all situations and due to the fact i specialize in exotic car detailing i PAY dearly!!!!!!!! also as anyone who has seen the back of my truck there is equipment for every surface of the car,i have four machine buffers two rotary and two orbital and the one orbital is 440.00$ alone so the investment do the best work requires more cost as anything of high quality.

Moe and i have the client with the Enzo in common, i take care of him up here,he handles so-cal duties btw Moe is that home incredible or what in Newport!.Also thanks to Knick aka MrTheKid for the hospitality this week working at your place,see you soon for the Beast(mustang).

 

Bob - any chance we can bring our cars to you? I don't like having the porsche on my driveway for extended periods of time. The neighbors get jealous.

 

I also can vouch for Premier. Their prices are very reasonable while most sublets try and gouge the insurance industry for every penny possible, they have not. Haven't heard a negative peep about them until now. My insurance company uses them for all claims and that's a solid 10-15 cars a month for the past year without one single call back. Bob, please forward me your information. We may be able to use your service in cases where reshoots are not necessary through claims and the paint can be corrected via your methods.

 

Tuna,

People get thirsty for quenching "hatorade" (lol)

 

lol. is that a yes?