Cayennes have better interiors?
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04-12-2011 | 10:33 AM
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The first thing Congress need to learn is that Social Security and Medicare are not government money. These entities are funded by the public for the benefit of the public with public funds directed specifically to those entities for allocation for specific purposes they are not part of the federal general fund nor part of the federal budget and are not funded by citizen income tax dollars. Every worker receiving a pay check since 1937 has contributed to Social Security with an equal amount coming from his/her employer. Social Security is not an entitlement it is the publics money not the governments! Now Every pay check and every Social Security check issued since 1966 has included a deduction to fund Medicare. Public contribution to a designated entity for a designated purpose for distribution back to the public as determined by the publics need at a later date. The funds there fore and not part of the general fund or the federal budget and are not coming for federal income tax dollars paid to the government and they are not entitlements. Sorry totally off topic but had to vent!
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04-12-2011 | 03:34 PM
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This is an interesting excerpt:
"The trust fund bonds are, in effect, IOUs from one branch of government — the Treasury — to another. In 2011, as the Social Security Administration cashes in a projected $45 billion in trust fund bonds to make up for a revenue shortfall, Treasury will have to borrow an additional $45 billion to redeem the bonds.
As President Obama's 2011 budget explained, "The trust fund balances are assets of the trust fund program agencies and liabilities of the Treasury, netting to zero for the Government as a whole. ... The existence of large trust fund balances, therefore, does not, by itself, increase the Government's ability to pay benefits.""
Note our President says that owing from one pocket and paying from the other results in a zero sum proposal........political gibberish unless the government prints money which is exactly what the Wiemar Republic in Germany did to erase the WWI reparations debt.........it caused massive inflation.
"The trust fund bonds are, in effect, IOUs from one branch of government — the Treasury — to another. In 2011, as the Social Security Administration cashes in a projected $45 billion in trust fund bonds to make up for a revenue shortfall, Treasury will have to borrow an additional $45 billion to redeem the bonds.
As President Obama's 2011 budget explained, "The trust fund balances are assets of the trust fund program agencies and liabilities of the Treasury, netting to zero for the Government as a whole. ... The existence of large trust fund balances, therefore, does not, by itself, increase the Government's ability to pay benefits.""
Note our President says that owing from one pocket and paying from the other results in a zero sum proposal........political gibberish unless the government prints money which is exactly what the Wiemar Republic in Germany did to erase the WWI reparations debt.........it caused massive inflation.
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04-12-2011 | 07:04 PM
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The first thing Congress need to learn is that Social Security and Medicare are not government money. These entities are funded by the public for the benefit of the public with public funds directed specifically to those entities for allocation for specific purposes they are not part of the federal general fund nor part of the federal budget and are not funded by citizen income tax dollars. Every worker receiving a pay check since 1937 has contributed to Social Security with an equal amount coming from his/her employer. Social Security is not an entitlement it is the publics money not the governments! Now Every pay check and every Social Security check issued since 1966 has included a deduction to fund Medicare. Public contribution to a designated entity for a designated purpose for distribution back to the public as determined by the publics need at a later date. The funds there fore and not part of the general fund or the federal budget and are not coming for federal income tax dollars paid to the government and they are not entitlements. Sorry totally off topic but had to vent!
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04-12-2011 | 11:44 PM
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04-13-2011 | 08:21 AM
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I would have ordered one like this if I were in my 40s or 50s. It oozes maturity instead of the all black interior that I want
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04-13-2011 | 08:26 AM
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04-13-2011 | 04:31 PM
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They don't make the Adaptive Sport Seats with ventilation AND the MF steering wheel with paddles though, so the answer for both would be not possible, at least for now. I don't understand why they cannot make seat ventilation work with the Adaptive Sport Seats. I have that in my 2006 E55 AMG......
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08-06-2011 | 08:36 PM
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Wikipedia says that the Panamera debuted at the Shanghai Auto Show in April 2009 one month prior to production. Not so. I got to sit in one at the Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance in mid March. And I was bowled over by its interior.
Already retired and in my 60's, never in my wildest dreams could this car, with its Cognac, Cream and Olive interior, be mine.
Fast forward two plus years to last week when this more affordable Cayenne S, with lots of stretching and some marital disharmony, was delivered.
I can't comment on which is more shockingly beautiful as they are both knockouts. For me, the Cayenne's signature is it's grab bars..... and everyone entering the vehicle so far has commented on the olive handles. In all respects the handles outshine what was rightly pointed out as skimpy wood trim pieces on the dash and doors.
Already retired and in my 60's, never in my wildest dreams could this car, with its Cognac, Cream and Olive interior, be mine.
Fast forward two plus years to last week when this more affordable Cayenne S, with lots of stretching and some marital disharmony, was delivered.
I can't comment on which is more shockingly beautiful as they are both knockouts. For me, the Cayenne's signature is it's grab bars..... and everyone entering the vehicle so far has commented on the olive handles. In all respects the handles outshine what was rightly pointed out as skimpy wood trim pieces on the dash and doors.
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08-06-2011 | 09:38 PM
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Wikipedia says that the Panamera debuted at the Shanghai Auto Show in April 2009 one month prior to production. Not so. I got to sit in one at the Amelia Island Concours D'Elegance in mid March. And I was bowled over by its interior.
Already retired and in my 60's, never in my wildest dreams could this car, with its Cognac, Cream and Olive interior, be mine.
Fast forward two plus years to last week when this more affordable Cayenne S, with lots of stretching and some marital disharmony, was delivered.
I can't comment on which is more shockingly beautiful as they are both knockouts. For me, the Cayenne's signature is it's grab bars..... and everyone entering the vehicle so far has commented on the olive handles. In all respects the handles outshine what was rightly pointed out as skimpy wood trim pieces on the dash and doors.
Already retired and in my 60's, never in my wildest dreams could this car, with its Cognac, Cream and Olive interior, be mine.
Fast forward two plus years to last week when this more affordable Cayenne S, with lots of stretching and some marital disharmony, was delivered.
I can't comment on which is more shockingly beautiful as they are both knockouts. For me, the Cayenne's signature is it's grab bars..... and everyone entering the vehicle so far has commented on the olive handles. In all respects the handles outshine what was rightly pointed out as skimpy wood trim pieces on the dash and doors.
Last edited by dhh; 08-06-2011 at 09:45 PM.
#30
08-06-2011 | 10:33 PM
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dhh: after researching interiors for countless hours, I came to think the Mercedes CL600 black/beige including black ash trim best delivers on your favorite color combo; but of course it is not a Porsche and lacks the style of the Panamera and Cayenne. Just nice to look at.
btw: Wife loves the new Cayenne S so all forgiven
btw: Wife loves the new Cayenne S so all forgiven
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