I've had issues at car washes with all the keyless entry systems. I insert the regular key all the time.

Porsche's setup is really the worst on this. Not sure what they were trying to accomplish or improve upon with the "blank" key.

 

I don't want to be the negative guy here but.. Aren't you guys worried about the theft aspect of all this. If someone walks past a car which looks to have the key left in the ignition, wouldn't they be more inclined to smash a window and try to steal the car?

A starter button is much better option imo. Better looking, more fun (well I think so at least..) and "safer".
Does Porsche have the key just to keep the traditionalists happy so the can still have the ignition to the left of the steering wheel?

 

I think you are right. Fake key may entice someone to break a window to try out the key! Probably a matter of time before Porsche goes to a button.

 

I just went and looked through all the windows of my car and the "fake" key, as you call it, is not visible from the passenger side through either window. It is not visible from the rear window and is only slightly visible through the driver's window. From there, in bright light, it looks more like the headlight switch above it than it does a key since it is black like the dash and other switches. A thief would have to know a little about Porsche's somewhat unusual key location to even think to look there for a key and if they knew that much about the Porsche they would know that key wouldn't work without the accompanying "smart" key.

And if you are so worried about a thief trying it out, why not just remove the "fake" key, just like you would a real key and solve the problem just like you would have before this was invented.

I haven't heard of any instances you are describing, though far-fetchedly it is possible, though not probable. If you are worried, just remove it and quit worrying.

 

You have a point there.
Living with the plastic key and now knowing I can remove it easily has made life acceptable, but I was expecting a start button too.

 

I still love keyless go and would never buy a car without it!

 

I have a 991S Cab coming with the Porsche Entry and Drive. Question re car washes. The one I use is a hand wash and I stay in the vehicle when they do the wash. Am I far enough away, in the driver's seat so that when they wash the lower part of the front hood that the hood won't pop open? When they do vacuming I turn off ignition and get out of the car.

John in Vancouver

 

Ok, i'll ask the stupid question. Why does it have to be removed for towing?
marc

 

So I purchased the metal key fob.. Only to find that my '12 P4S doesn't have the same turn to the left procedure as prior models.. Anyone know how to remove the plastic porsche entry and drive key fob on '12 and newer Panamera's?

 

For anyone looking to figure out how to remove the plastic key fob on 12 and newer models see link below. I suppose this page is in the drivers manual as well..

http://www.porscheownersmanuals.com/...anamera/5/145/

 

Funny, I didn't use that method to get the key out of my '13 model once. I think I pressed it in and turned it, or something like that, and it just came out.

 

What seemed to work for me is without he keys In the car turn to start once, get the complaint that no key found, turn off and then to start again, one more complaint. Finally turn back to off again and you'll hear a click of the key blank being released. Pull out the blank (should come out easily)

 

This worked for me. Thanks

 

I say this knowing full well you will have a good laugh at my expense.

Not only did I not know how to remove the entry and drive plastic "key", I didn't even realize that it could be removed. What's worse, until today, I didn't know that the actual key worked as an actual key. Today was the first time since I bought my car (in June) that I put the key in the ignition.

 

And I bet you found weren't missing the fun of putting a key in the ignition either. I hate having to deal with the key.