PTT - Upper Control Arms & Lower Control arm bushings
#1
PTT - Upper Control Arms & Lower Control arm bushings
Hi I'm looking for input on what brand of upper control arms to put on my car when I change the front air struts next week. I'm trying to decide between URO and Lemforder upper control arms with URO being about half the price. I really don't want to have issues in 2 years with the bushings failing etc. by saving money now. I appreciate any input on what you used etc.
For the lower control arms I'm planning to just replace the bushings so I bought a small 1 ton press. Has anyone done this before and or would you recommend replacing the entire lower control arms? My car has the typical problem that these cars have with creaking sounds over speed bumps etc.
Thanks everyone...
For the lower control arms I'm planning to just replace the bushings so I bought a small 1 ton press. Has anyone done this before and or would you recommend replacing the entire lower control arms? My car has the typical problem that these cars have with creaking sounds over speed bumps etc.
Thanks everyone...
#2
Not sure about PTT fitment, but the URO's didn't last long on Audi's. Lemforder is the OEM manufacturer and is known for high quality - it's the only brand I intend to use when needed. There were sources for Lemforder control arms w/ the Audi logo removed that sold for half the price - maybe it's a similar situation w/ Porsche?
#4
Thank you guys. I'm going to follow suit an order the Lenforder's uppers and then new bushings for the lower control arms. Next week should be fun as I've never done suspension work before let alone on a Porsche. I'm also thinking about replacing the sway bar bushings while I'm pressing in the new lower control arm ones. I can't wait for the car to just be done...
#5
good, info. looking to do mine next spring.
How long ago did you do it? satisfied with the results?
How long ago did you do it? satisfied with the results?
#6
I'm just about to perform my big maintenance and addressing the entire front suspension is part of that. I spent several hours going through the exact same questions, so let me help you out :
- Lemforder is the best bang for the buck, any feedback I read on URO was negative. Lemforder is the OEM supplier, so you get the same quality at half the Porsche price. With the exception of the 4 sway bar bushings, I was able to source everything at FCP Euro, which was a great buying experience. More info on the purchase process and associated discounts below.
- You basically have to address several parts of your front suspension, and end up by tightening everything down according to specs. Following are the parts you need to buy and replace:
A] 2 new upper control arms (Lemforder 3568201KT)
B] While the lower control arms each have 3 bushings in them, only 1 of them needs to be replaced on each side (Lemforder 3572901). This is an expensive bushing which runs about 80$, but the alternative is to replace the entire control arm, which will set you back over 300$. Replacing the bushing will require you to find a local shop with a special bushing press, or you will have to build your own homemade contraption.
C] The swaybar needs following parts replaced :
c1 : 2 upper bushings (Porsche 97034379205)
c2 : 2 lower bushings (Porsche 97034379305)
c3 : the swaybar links (Lemforder 3567902KT - suspension dependent !)
Here is a copy of my FCP Euro shipping form :
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Suspension Control Arm and Ball Joint Assembly |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3568201 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Control Arm |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 4 | Audi VW Hex Bolt - Genuine Audi VW N10290206 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 4 | VAG-N10290206 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Hex Bolt |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Suspension Stabilizer Bar Link |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3567902 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Stabilizer Bar Link |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Control Arm Bushing |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3572901 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Control Arm Bushing |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
FCP Euro normally does not provide a discount for PCA, Rennlist, etc...but I was able to convince them since I ordered most of my maintenance parts from them. The 5% discount code they gave me is : 88e3y77
The upper and lower sway bar bushings is something they did not carry, so I had to order it from Porsche. Talk to Luke at Sunset Porsche (Parts:888-819-8508), they are by far the cheapest (5% mark-up from their own price).
Have fun with your project and do not forget to give me some rep power if you like my post !
- Lemforder is the best bang for the buck, any feedback I read on URO was negative. Lemforder is the OEM supplier, so you get the same quality at half the Porsche price. With the exception of the 4 sway bar bushings, I was able to source everything at FCP Euro, which was a great buying experience. More info on the purchase process and associated discounts below.
- You basically have to address several parts of your front suspension, and end up by tightening everything down according to specs. Following are the parts you need to buy and replace:
A] 2 new upper control arms (Lemforder 3568201KT)
B] While the lower control arms each have 3 bushings in them, only 1 of them needs to be replaced on each side (Lemforder 3572901). This is an expensive bushing which runs about 80$, but the alternative is to replace the entire control arm, which will set you back over 300$. Replacing the bushing will require you to find a local shop with a special bushing press, or you will have to build your own homemade contraption.
C] The swaybar needs following parts replaced :
c1 : 2 upper bushings (Porsche 97034379205)
c2 : 2 lower bushings (Porsche 97034379305)
c3 : the swaybar links (Lemforder 3567902KT - suspension dependent !)
Here is a copy of my FCP Euro shipping form :
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Suspension Control Arm and Ball Joint Assembly |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3568201 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Control Arm |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 4 | Audi VW Hex Bolt - Genuine Audi VW N10290206 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 4 | VAG-N10290206 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Hex Bolt |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Suspension Stabilizer Bar Link |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3567902 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Stabilizer Bar Link |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | Product |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | Control Arm Bushing |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Qty | SKU Label | Tracking | Ship Date |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| 2 | LEM-3572901 | 133656320482 | 10/31/2019 |
| Suspension Control Arm Bushing |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
FCP Euro normally does not provide a discount for PCA, Rennlist, etc...but I was able to convince them since I ordered most of my maintenance parts from them. The 5% discount code they gave me is : 88e3y77
The upper and lower sway bar bushings is something they did not carry, so I had to order it from Porsche. Talk to Luke at Sunset Porsche (Parts:888-819-8508), they are by far the cheapest (5% mark-up from their own price).
Have fun with your project and do not forget to give me some rep power if you like my post !
Last edited by Yves; 11-01-2019 at 12:41 PM.
#7
Thank you guys. I'm going to follow suit an order the Lenforder's uppers and then new bushings for the lower control arms. Next week should be fun as I've never done suspension work before let alone on a Porsche. I'm also thinking about replacing the sway bar bushings while I'm pressing in the new lower control arm ones. I can't wait for the car to just be done...
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#8
Thank you for all the info it was more then I could ask for! I really appreciate it ordering the upper control arms and lower bushings today. My air struts are being delivered tomorrow.
#9
Hi, did you end up replacing the entire air strut or just the air bag portion with existing forks? I planned to replace the upper control arms and just the bushings in my lower arms. I bought a 1 ton press and planned to replace the bushings myself but I'll see once I get them off the car. Thanks for your reply....let me know what you want for the lowers. Thanks!
#10
I'm looking at the Lemfoerder's now and I just wanted to double check that these upper control arms are exactly the same for both sides right? I'm seeing the part numbers for both right upper & left upper are the same, so it shouldn't matter if I accidentally get 2 "left" upper arms, right?
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two different part numbers though?
W0133-1983768
119684-08051705
Don't they both have ball joints/bushings and are "OE equivalent?"
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two different part numbers though?
W0133-1983768
119684-08051705
Don't they both have ball joints/bushings and are "OE equivalent?"
Last edited by elShiz; 11-05-2019 at 07:27 AM.
#11
I'm looking at the Lemfoerder's now and I just wanted to double check that these upper control arms are exactly the same for both sides right? I'm seeing the part numbers for both right upper & left upper are the same, so it shouldn't matter if I accidentally get 2 "left" upper arms, right?
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two different part numbers though?
W0133-1983768
119684-08051705
Don't they both have ball joints/bushings and are "OE equivalent?"
Can anyone tell me the difference between these two different part numbers though?
W0133-1983768
119684-08051705
Don't they both have ball joints/bushings and are "OE equivalent?"
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