iSimple ISFM2351 Bluetooth Integration
#1
iSimple ISFM2351 Bluetooth Integration
Hi,
Not sure if this will be a duplicate thread or not but I did do a search prior.
I didn't really see replacing the radio just to gain bluetooth A2DP streaming and voice calls - the cost of radio, harness, antenna adapters, MOST integration (I have the BOSE), just too much.
This unit is great, though considered FM Modulation, its a direct connect to antenna, sounds great, no static, drove around for a day before posting this and tested it nicely and to boot, it has RDS functions!
I'm installing this on my 2008 Cayenne 957 Turbo.
You'll need:
1. iSimple ISFM2351 (bought at Best Buy, had them remove the install price, then price matched Amazon) : $78.52
2. 40-EU20 Antenna Adapter : 17.99 (bought at Best Buy)
3. 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter (bought at Best Buy, had them price matched Amazon) : $6.07
4. T-20 Bit
5. Bone Tools
6. Misc (elec. tape, zip ties, flush cuts, ratchet, etc)
Step 1 - Remove Trim.
Make sure to go deep enough with your bone tool to get trim off, not just barely in to get the aluminum portion off:
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%201_zpsiltaukhv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%201_zpsiltaukhv.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 1_zpsiltaukhv.jpg"/></a>
Step 2 - Remove the 4 screws holding the radio in. Will need Torx T20
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%202_zpsbfwljqed.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%202_zpsbfwljqed.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 2_zpsbfwljqed.jpg"/></a>
Step 3 - Decide where to route the Microphone, I opted to use the OEM location.
Remove the main dome lights with bone tool, it will expose 2 T20 Torx screws. Also lower the sunglasses holster and will expose 2 additional T20 Torx
3a.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%203_zps57n2pdd6.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%203_zps57n2pdd6.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 3_zps57n2pdd6.jpg"/></a>
3b.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%204_zpssxmada0o.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%204_zpssxmada0o.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 4_zpssxmada0o.jpg"/></a>
3c. I cut the ribbon on drive side, two of them, and the plastic housing to give me room. (if you need a little more room, I removed the small circuit board behind the OEM speaker plastic piece, will need CR-VT6 Torx for positions circled in yellow, then put it back when finished).
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%205_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%205_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 5_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg"/></a>
3d.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%206_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%206_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 6_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg"/></a>
Step 4 - Decide where you want the function button, I choose the spot next to radio. Use bone tool to pry piece off carefully - the function button is applied using double sided tape.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%207_zpshstisbbl.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%207_zpshstisbbl.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 7_zpshstisbbl.jpg"/></a>
Step 5 - I didn't take pictures directly as its straight forward, only 2 wires to power the unit. On the back of the PCM, locate the power harness, only 3 wires are terminated to this: a brown wire (Ground) and white wire (Accessory) and Red/Yellow (Constant). You will connect the ISFM2351 to the brown and white. The function button connects to the ISFM2351 too, pink to pink and black to black (they're bundled separately so you won't get confused).
FINISHED PRODUCT:
*notice the RDS*
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%208_zpsr2burec0.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%208_zpsr2burec0.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 8_zpsr2burec0.jpg"/></a>
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%209_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%209_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 9_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg"/></a>
I hope this helps - any questions, feel free to ask!
Keoni.
Not sure if this will be a duplicate thread or not but I did do a search prior.
I didn't really see replacing the radio just to gain bluetooth A2DP streaming and voice calls - the cost of radio, harness, antenna adapters, MOST integration (I have the BOSE), just too much.
This unit is great, though considered FM Modulation, its a direct connect to antenna, sounds great, no static, drove around for a day before posting this and tested it nicely and to boot, it has RDS functions!
I'm installing this on my 2008 Cayenne 957 Turbo.
You'll need:
1. iSimple ISFM2351 (bought at Best Buy, had them remove the install price, then price matched Amazon) : $78.52
2. 40-EU20 Antenna Adapter : 17.99 (bought at Best Buy)
3. 40-EU10 Antenna Adapter (bought at Best Buy, had them price matched Amazon) : $6.07
4. T-20 Bit
5. Bone Tools
6. Misc (elec. tape, zip ties, flush cuts, ratchet, etc)
Step 1 - Remove Trim.
Make sure to go deep enough with your bone tool to get trim off, not just barely in to get the aluminum portion off:
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%201_zpsiltaukhv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%201_zpsiltaukhv.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 1_zpsiltaukhv.jpg"/></a>
Step 2 - Remove the 4 screws holding the radio in. Will need Torx T20
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%202_zpsbfwljqed.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%202_zpsbfwljqed.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 2_zpsbfwljqed.jpg"/></a>
Step 3 - Decide where to route the Microphone, I opted to use the OEM location.
Remove the main dome lights with bone tool, it will expose 2 T20 Torx screws. Also lower the sunglasses holster and will expose 2 additional T20 Torx
3a.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%203_zps57n2pdd6.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%203_zps57n2pdd6.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 3_zps57n2pdd6.jpg"/></a>
3b.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%204_zpssxmada0o.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%204_zpssxmada0o.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 4_zpssxmada0o.jpg"/></a>
3c. I cut the ribbon on drive side, two of them, and the plastic housing to give me room. (if you need a little more room, I removed the small circuit board behind the OEM speaker plastic piece, will need CR-VT6 Torx for positions circled in yellow, then put it back when finished).
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%205_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%205_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 5_zpsuxnzsjia.jpg"/></a>
3d.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%206_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%206_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 6_zpsmah3tfqv.jpg"/></a>
Step 4 - Decide where you want the function button, I choose the spot next to radio. Use bone tool to pry piece off carefully - the function button is applied using double sided tape.
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%207_zpshstisbbl.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%207_zpshstisbbl.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 7_zpshstisbbl.jpg"/></a>
Step 5 - I didn't take pictures directly as its straight forward, only 2 wires to power the unit. On the back of the PCM, locate the power harness, only 3 wires are terminated to this: a brown wire (Ground) and white wire (Accessory) and Red/Yellow (Constant). You will connect the ISFM2351 to the brown and white. The function button connects to the ISFM2351 too, pink to pink and black to black (they're bundled separately so you won't get confused).
FINISHED PRODUCT:
*notice the RDS*
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%208_zpsr2burec0.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%208_zpsr2burec0.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 8_zpsr2burec0.jpg"/></a>
<a href="http://s173.photobucket.com/user/keoni212/media/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%209_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/keoni212/2008%20Porsche%20Cayenne%20Turbo/Step%209_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Step 9_zpspx5hkvdq.jpg"/></a>
I hope this helps - any questions, feel free to ask!
Keoni.
Last edited by Tuscani66; 08-09-2015 at 07:29 PM.
#2
i have 2005 CTT with same stock stereo with this isimple with lightning cable installed, i get a little bit of static. do you think the bluetooth version works differently? thanks and have a great day!!
#3
I don't get any static at all, happy with it entirely; possible antenna connectors might be damaged/scratched or the like. I would look into that first, remove the antenna adapters, inspect/clean, re-seat well with the radio on, if you twist the whole antenna (not the wire) but the elbow metal part inside the housing and you hear static, fine tune it to where you dont hear and carefully put away.
So, in theory both ours are direct antenna connect, should be little to no interference or static. I do like this though, as soon as I open my door (aside from the fuel pumps auto priming) the car also turns on basic accessory as you know and my phone beeps showing Bluetooth connected to radio, seamless and works. I do find myself speaking closer to the headliner based on where I put my MIC but as some say speak up, some have said to speak down, so really no different then regular headset.
Hope this helps.
So, in theory both ours are direct antenna connect, should be little to no interference or static. I do like this though, as soon as I open my door (aside from the fuel pumps auto priming) the car also turns on basic accessory as you know and my phone beeps showing Bluetooth connected to radio, seamless and works. I do find myself speaking closer to the headliner based on where I put my MIC but as some say speak up, some have said to speak down, so really no different then regular headset.
Hope this helps.
#6
Sorry for late reply - my thoughts after a couple months:
1. I noticed a volume difference between Radio and CD. At first, during my initial review, I was using this so much that I never thought to check but the lately I was switching to my CD to listen to my MP3s and had to turn the volume DOWN, not by much, but enough to make me do it instantly.
2. No hissing or popping, reception is clear and consistent. I have not had to change frequencies at all, I have mine set to 98.1. I live in Atlanta/Woodstock GA, 98.1 is not used there however I work in Greenville SC, 98.1 is a direct station there, there is NO interference!
3. Maintains! I made 2 trips from Woodstock GA to Pittsburgh PA twice already, I listened to it all the way through, no drops, hiss, needing to change frequencies, etc.
4. Connection is constant, I have yet to encounter having to either turn off/on the unit (using the Phone switch button) or having to turn on/off my bluetooth radio on my mobile phone - it always connects as soon as I open my door (I can hear my phone beep saying it connected to a bluetooth device)(as we all know our cars turns on the fuel pump and accessory when you open the driver door when you hit the unlock on key fob).
5. Placement of the microphone is key, you can see above where I placed mine and I do find myself having to raise my phone to communicate. No complaints in the other end of quality however if you find yourself getting comfortable when speaking, we naturally speak softer, then it may be a problem... I'm going to look into placing double mics (like OEM, though it looks like 4 mic inputs, its actually 2 split into 4) by using a 2.5mm mic input splitter.
6. Summary: I still recommend it! I have no cons at all, all pros, only minor issue is microphone and that might be due to 'me'/placement/etc.
If you have any questions - feel free to ask!
Keoni.
1. I noticed a volume difference between Radio and CD. At first, during my initial review, I was using this so much that I never thought to check but the lately I was switching to my CD to listen to my MP3s and had to turn the volume DOWN, not by much, but enough to make me do it instantly.
2. No hissing or popping, reception is clear and consistent. I have not had to change frequencies at all, I have mine set to 98.1. I live in Atlanta/Woodstock GA, 98.1 is not used there however I work in Greenville SC, 98.1 is a direct station there, there is NO interference!
3. Maintains! I made 2 trips from Woodstock GA to Pittsburgh PA twice already, I listened to it all the way through, no drops, hiss, needing to change frequencies, etc.
4. Connection is constant, I have yet to encounter having to either turn off/on the unit (using the Phone switch button) or having to turn on/off my bluetooth radio on my mobile phone - it always connects as soon as I open my door (I can hear my phone beep saying it connected to a bluetooth device)(as we all know our cars turns on the fuel pump and accessory when you open the driver door when you hit the unlock on key fob).
5. Placement of the microphone is key, you can see above where I placed mine and I do find myself having to raise my phone to communicate. No complaints in the other end of quality however if you find yourself getting comfortable when speaking, we naturally speak softer, then it may be a problem... I'm going to look into placing double mics (like OEM, though it looks like 4 mic inputs, its actually 2 split into 4) by using a 2.5mm mic input splitter.
6. Summary: I still recommend it! I have no cons at all, all pros, only minor issue is microphone and that might be due to 'me'/placement/etc.
If you have any questions - feel free to ask!
Keoni.
#7
Keoni, thanks for the thorough evaluation. As a reminder, does this unit also have an "aux" input? While Bluetooth is great, most of my music is on an older 120GB Zune that doesn't support Bluetooth.
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#8
What!? No bluetooth!?!
#9
I have it on my phone, but with the dedicated 120 MB player, I've ripped my collection as "lossless". The native equalization is much better than any I've tried for iPhones or Androids.
#10
One more question
...hopefully the last. If you are listening to the satellite radio, CD, or even AUX (through the iSimple), and a call comes in, what happens? Does it automatically ring through the unit and switch to the FM band, or is this a manual operation with the "phone" button that you mounted? Thanks
#11
illini,
1. No, this does not have the option to accept LINE input to transmit via FM antenna.
2. If you are not in FM mode and a call comes in, you'll need to switch to FM; the car will not beep in no way to notify you that you have an incoming call.
3. If you want to listen to FM radio, you'll have to hit the main (only) button and hold for 6 seconds (or turn off your bluetooth on your phone/device) and it turns off (you'll hear a chime), with it on all the other stations will sound like static unless you're on your designated station (mine is 98.1) however, if you turn it off to listen to FM and you get a phone call, it WILL ring in the car and can be answered/talked like normal - pretty cool feature. But if you want to turn it back on to stream via Bluetooth then you press and hold for 2 seconds and you'll hear the chime (different then other chime) that it is on. If it is on and you turn car off and later on, you'll never hear the chime so thats a good thing IMO, nothing annoying and nothing that is out of ordinary.
This is a good system IMO.
Hope this helps.
Keoni.
1. No, this does not have the option to accept LINE input to transmit via FM antenna.
2. If you are not in FM mode and a call comes in, you'll need to switch to FM; the car will not beep in no way to notify you that you have an incoming call.
3. If you want to listen to FM radio, you'll have to hit the main (only) button and hold for 6 seconds (or turn off your bluetooth on your phone/device) and it turns off (you'll hear a chime), with it on all the other stations will sound like static unless you're on your designated station (mine is 98.1) however, if you turn it off to listen to FM and you get a phone call, it WILL ring in the car and can be answered/talked like normal - pretty cool feature. But if you want to turn it back on to stream via Bluetooth then you press and hold for 2 seconds and you'll hear the chime (different then other chime) that it is on. If it is on and you turn car off and later on, you'll never hear the chime so thats a good thing IMO, nothing annoying and nothing that is out of ordinary.
This is a good system IMO.
Hope this helps.
Keoni.
Last edited by Tuscani66; 11-18-2015 at 09:14 AM.
#13
You're welcome - hope it helped. I ordered another one recently to install into my brother's Lexus SC430. As that car has bluetooth integration and phone unit, it does not stream A2DP, so I said get this... I'm installing it next weekend for him.
#14
Thanks Keoni. One of the disadvantages of living in Canada is the prices on Amazon.ca vs Amazon.com (same company). The same iSimple unit is almost double the price (after exchange). I will ship to a friend in Seattle and drive down to pick it up (2.5h drive). Sounds like a reasonable alternative to swapping out the entire system.
#15
Mono
I finally got mine installed and I loved it. However, down near the temperature and clock readouts, I see the word "mono" that was not there prior to my install. Any suggestions on how to clear this? Thanks